So why couldn't the Sci-Fi network pick up Firefly???
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UPDATED: Monday, November 7, 2016 10:09
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Couple of quick thoughts:
First of all.. I believe BSG is actually split between Sci-fi and the BBC (if not the BBC, then someone else.. it's definatly split between two entities). Both of them equally sharing in the cost of production. This has helped for two reasons.. One, each entity only has to pay half of the production which if that wasn't the case, imagine BSG being done on HALF the budget? Secondly.. since it's not owned by just ONE company.. the Sci-fi channel does not have the authority to go in and mess with it any way they wish! Now imagine that.. the writers and Ron Moore have much more freedom to do what they want with little (or at least a lot less) studio involvment and we get one of the best shows on tv out of it!
Ok.. then about Firefly/Serenity. When I look at the big picture.. the biggest "problem" with Firefly is it doesn't have a single saleable premise. Now that's the very same thing that makes our beloved show what it is. But what I find out time and time again is that I simply can't seem to "sell" anyone on the concept, no matter what tactic I take. If I go uberfan on someone.. they get turned off. If I casually tell someone they should check it out it's really good.. they never get around to it.
The ONLY people that I can sell it on are the few people out there that are MAJOR sci-fi geeks who for some reason or other haven't seen it.. a very strong recommendation in seeing it and that I know they will love it is usually enough to get them to actually check it out.
Now the frustrating part is when someone you have been working on FINALLY watches it.. they inevitably say "OH MY GOD!! WHY DIDN"T YOU TELL ME HOW INCREDIBLE THIS IS?" And I just want to pull my hair out saying "I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU FOR THE PAST YEAR!!!".
About the best approach I have found for non-sci-fi geeks is to simply say "Look.. you may not LOVE this like I do.. but out of ANY form of entertainment on this planet that has ever been known to man, plays, books, movies, shadow puppets.. whatever.. out of ANY entertaiment ever.. this is the ONLY thing that I will personally guarentee that at the VERY least you WILL be entertained." Then I tell them to go buy the boxed set.. and if they truely hate it.. I will buy the boxed set from them. I've never had to buy a boxed set... but also.. it's still a slim percentage of people that actually do go but the boxed set after telling them that.
Which I believe comes down to the idea that it simply doesn't have a simple saleable concept.
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The old timers will tell you that a movie deal was in the works before the DVDs were released. Maybe the agreement with Universal precluded production of additional episodes for television for a specified period?
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"we get plenty of Frakkin' ghostfacers(Supernatural is awsome)"
OMG, how funny was GhostFacers? I never laughed so hard. GhostHunters is such a pile of sh!t.
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Ghost Hunters IS in fact a ridiculous show....
"oh my god! I felt a cold spot"...
"Something touched my shoulder!"
I don't care if they want to investigate Ghosts, or UFOs or the Loch Ness Monster, that's cool with me, but make it a seasonal special. Hell, make it two hours if you want and present your BEST evidence instead of an hourly show every week filled with dramatic editing of fuzzy hand held footage along with wild speculation that in the end basically says, "well, we still have no evidence of anything..."
I guess like all "reality " and pro-wrestling shows, these shows are CHEAP AS HELL to produce and for some reason people still watch...
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Originally posted by rickker:
because Firefly is a non-reality sci-fi show. It costs money to make and the sci-fi channel can't spend money on sci-fi programing cause it costs to much. theyll spend it on nonquality crap programming rather than quallity, if it has quality they cancel it quick; Farscape, Stargate SG-1, Battlestar Galactica, Dresden Files. And to a lesser extent of quality First Wave and Invisible Man. But we get plenty of Frakkin' ghostfacers(Supernatural is awsome) / ghost hunters, and destisnation crap.
Ok I agree with you on Farscape and Dresden.... but SG-1?? Canceled QUICK? Probably just poor choice of words. That show got more of a chance than any other Science Fiction show that I can immediately think of. Besides Doctor Who. I enjoyed SG-1 greatly since it's inception but the last two seasons had far more bad than good. Sure they made some big mistakes with cancelation. It should have been canceled after season 7 or so, so they could pick up the originally planned Stargate Command(or whatever they were going to call it) series which would have starred the cast SG-1 had in it's final couple seasons. Then it may have run for even longer. But ofcourse they wanted to go for longest running series and got greedy.
Anyway this is a thread about Scifi picking up Firefly so I'll have to say I agree with ECGORDON that it was the expense of the show and it's poor ratings that sealed it's doom. Didn't matter that the ratings were due to poor advertisement and scheduling issues.
There's still hope for more 'verse. And it most likely lies with either the internet or Fox, unless Uni decides to make further films. Joss's new series Dollhouse will, if a big enough hit, renew his standing(in the eyes of the big wigs) as a money maker. I won't say if it'll be a continuation of Firefly(Very unlikely.. though one can hope) or a new series set in the 'verse. All I hope is that Joss can pull it off and make it stick.
I ran into this guy in chat. His name was still visible but I think he was gone. I checked him out and he turns to be an old acquaintance of this site.
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