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Nobel Peace Prize winner Mandela on U.S. Terrorist List

POSTED BY: deadlockvictim
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 09:44
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Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:50 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I can see why the Bush regime would label him a terrorist - he was crucial in bringing democracy to South Africa, after all. The last thing Bush wants in the US is a functioning democracy...


If by Bush regime you mean George W. Bush, then you are wrong. If you instead mean Jimmy Carter, George HW Bush, and Bill Clinton...then you are correct.

The African National Congress was labled a terrorist group in the late 1970s. Mandella was released in 1990 and elected President in 1994. In between all that Reagan orchestrated a policy that isolated South Africa and brought down their racist government. So to recap, Carter labled him a terrorist and George Bush (41) didn't clear it up when he got out of jail and Clinton (42) deliberately chose to ignore the distinction when he was elected President (after all...the Clinton's would never want to see a black man in a high office).

Since President Bush has done so much for Africa, especially compared to the prior administration, I suspect that this situation can be easily corrected. In fact Condi seems to be on top of making sure that this has little or no effect on the free travel of South Africans to and from the United States.

H



I like how you totally skip Reagan not reversing it, either.

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Tuesday, May 6, 2008 10:02 PM

When using it to imply that what " Bush Co - John Ashcroft's baby" are doing is similar to what the Nazis did, it does break Godwin's. It isn't a valid comparison since Bush's term is almost up, there appears to be no popular support for him exceeding it (indeed little popular support period, which is something the Nazis did have-see the Colbert Report's "The Word" on that for a humorous take) and also since "Bush Co" have yet to build government death camps and send minorities there it is invalid and I therefore invoke Godwin.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:30 AM

Meh
It says that quite a few members of Congress see it as an embarresment... ain't we a bit past that point already? I mean, to most every country in the world, we're either a laughing stock, or the so-called "Evil Empire".
Personally, I find labeling Mandella as a terrorist (Which he was) less of a blunder then not finding those WMD's in Iraq.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:31 AM

In 1986 I signed a petition but I still haven't received my free Nelson Mandela...

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 4:33 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
In 1986 I signed a petition but I still haven't received my free Nelson Mandela...



HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA

I hear ya. I'm still waiting for my "Free Tibet" - nowhere on the petition did it say "while supplies last"!



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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:44 AM

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"This is a country with which we now have excellent relations, South Africa, but it's frankly a rather embarrassing matter that I still have to waive in my own counterpart, the foreign minister of South Africa, not to mention the great leader Nelson Mandela," Rice said .


Sure do love how them bureaucracies work, eh?

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