Jayne's Love Interests
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I think that Kaylee is everyone's little sister on Serenity (except Simon). But seeing him outside the infirmary window in the pilot looking in on Simon treating Kaylee; and how he responded when the Fed shot her; and his teasing of her, makes me think that he definitely has a crush on her.
He's a simple man, yes, with simple pleasures. But he doesn't know how to talk to Kaylee. He prefers the loose women because he knows what to say to them. Let's go. Were it not for Mal, I think he would have hit on her in his own unique way.
Didn't she shoot you once?
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Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
Plus, all of them are capable of either hurting him, or having Mal hurt him...
With Jayne, the body maybe forty, but the mind is still fourteen, most of the time. There's a fabulous description of him in 'Serenity Found' - "he wasn't great at school, was deeply loyal to his friends and family, liked trucks and guns and beer and women he could understand. Anything else was deeply suspicious." That's our boy.
(But as anyone who has seen my BSR stuff knows, I have a weakness for the big lug.)
Yep, too many of them around here. But sometimes one of them will surprise you.
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May I suggest checking out "Better Days" (the only canon we’ve had written in 3 years) for fun insights into these characters? Jayne's fantasy is hilarious, and his conversation with Simon about Companions shouldn't be missed.
And, yeah, Jayne definitely has a crush on Kaylee.
And, River's fantasy partner is like bizarre, which confirms that she is out there even when she's not harboring governmental cover-ups.
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i agree about Jayne's crush for sure.
also - in general i sometimes see Jayne as a Titus Pullo type, for those who have seen Rome. They are similarly blood thirsty yet big hearted. I see their love interests as similar - and their discontent with peacetime (although Cobb is not the rank and file soldier that Pullo was initially). Both are nervous of the protocols of romance - get angry if considered slow, or uncouth just for their background... and yet can also show awareness of their inability to mix in society 'above their station'.
Obviously people that hate Rome may disagree - but Little John will do for a similar archetype.
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"ooo....ooo...ooo....eah!...eaah..."
"Jayne love Jayne"
"ughh"
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i agree with those who say that Jayne primarily takes sexual interest in women, not love interest.
i would also say that he sees women as objects. considering he calls his favourite gun "Vera" and wants to trade "her" for Saffron because Vera is "miles more worthy than what you have got", it is clear that he has a low regard for women in general.
with his crewmates, though, i think it's more complicated. he kinda likes Kaylee and thinks she needs protecting and might actually think of her more as a little sister (as discussed by others). i guess he finds Zoe attractive but she is off-limits for different reasons: 1. she is tough, which he respects and might even fear in her; and 2. she is married, which, keeping in mind the references to his own family (esp. his mother), tells a lot about his kind of (twisted) value system.
of course Jayne finds Inara attractive, but she is totally out of his league, and even would be without the rule about not servicing crew members. he seems to be fantasizing about her though. Just think about the "i'll be in my bunk" reference when Inara welcomes her female client.
finally, River actually freaks him out on several occasions. despite thinking she is cute, to him she is just an object to be turned in in return for profit. it is only in "Ariel" I think that he comes to think of River as someone a bit like Kaylee (puts her in the "needs protection" pigeon hole) when Simon explains to him what has been done to her, so that he then tries to get them out of the hospital earlier than he originally intended (thus avoiding the Feds he had sold them out to before).
Okay, I am digressing and over-analyzing, sorry.
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You are absolutely spot on about Jayne's relationships with the womenfolk of Serenity. We got a quick glimpse of his respect for Zoe in the pilot when he went after the lawman. Zoe cocked her sawed-off and he knows "she'll shoot". Plus I agree that he respects that she's a married women possibly due to his upbringing and, of course, Mom. His "that's downright unsettling" line in War Stories is telling also. He sees Zoe and Mal as 2 war buddies and not as lovers. (OK, I digress too).
A simple man with simple pleasures, indeed, but a complicated man. There's so much more. I can't wait to see more of our BDHs. Hello is anyone listening.
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I didn't see his slight affection for Kaylee as anything more then innocent..I agree with it being said they had a sibling sort of relationship. It was really hard for me to see Kaylee in any sort of sexual light tho..lol...QUITE the shock when it was revealed how she became crew on Out of Gas...lol...I mean..I get that she was an adult..and of course would have them urges..and her continuous flirtation with Simon aside..she had this playfulness about her that when the time came for me to see that scene, I did cover my eyes a little goin' "OMG" and i couldn't stop giggling..
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DivineMacabre wrote:
Monday, May 19, 2008 12:05
...It was really hard for me to see Kaylee in any sort of sexual light tho..lol...QUITE the shock when it was revealed how she became crew on Out of Gas...lol...I mean..I get that she was an adult..and of course would have them urges.... I did cover my eyes a little goin' "OMG" and i couldn't stop giggling..
I'm with you on this one. In spite of how Mal found her, she just seems so innocent most of the time and then she has lines like, "Do they have boy whores?" or "It's been so long since I had somethin' between my nethers that didn't run on batteries ...." and it always makes me chuckle.
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Inara said, "One of the virtues of not being puritanical about sex is not being embarrassed afterwards."
When Mal first meets Kaylee in the flashback she turns her back for modesty as she's rearranging her clothes, but says "Hello!" with no shame. She's not embarrassed; in her world sex is natural. She is a sexual being, but it's matter-of-fact like her knack with machinery. She's sunny and innocent, not hard or worldly.
I also agree that she's not as attractive to Jayne for that very reason; he's attracted to very worldly, experienced women like his Mudder groupie and the whore at the Heart of Gold. I believe her sunny quality makes him think of her in a more brotherly fashion.
But he's powerfully aware of any female presence in his vicinity; as Mal says, "Would be you get your most poetical about your pecker."
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