The monster that is Monsanto
POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Friday, May 9, 2008 15:49
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Quote:Like Robin Hood, you've hit the bullseye.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Our system is NOT complex at all, simply add in greed, ambition and a total lack of conscience with a minimal to non-existent set of controls and consequences, to a population concerned only with their own personal power, wealth and comfort.
Friar Chrisisall
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Sometimes... rarely... it evolves into a relatively benign, egalitarian form.
For a while, but it's an inherently flawed and unstable system to begin with and always seems to cycle back to the same dynamic which caused the wreck in the first place, which is why I prefer a Crazy Eddie solution instead of something temporary.
Oh, and Chrisisall ?
That's William Tell, ya berk *thunk!*
Despite the inflated tales, Robin of Loxley was a rather indifferent archer, and not much of a swordsman either - it was his fiendish mind and ability to inspire folk that made him dangerous, rather than his martial skills.
And nor are you stoic enough to be Friar Tuck, but rather more in temperment and behavior common to Alan A'Dale.
-Legendary Fremisall.
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Quote:But I don't remember that he was good at kicking ass....?
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Alan A'Dale.
Martial Chrisisall
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Is this a baseless opinion, or do you have anything to back it up?
Is this anything like the " collusion" that CNN had w/ Saddam to not report on the atrocities Iraq was committing and to even go as far as to report puff pieces
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Let's party like it's 1929.
Nothing I say or post is " baseless". You ought to know that by now, sheesh.
CNN's Iraqi Cover-Up
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/critiques/CNNs_Iraqi_Cover-Up.
asp
CNN admits that knowledge of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.
In a shocking New York Times opinion piece, CNN's chief news executive Eason Jordan has admitted that for the past decade the network has systematically covered up stories of Iraqi atrocities. Reports of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.
Read Jordan's op-ed at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/11/opinion/11JORD.html
Jordan has not always been so candid -- nor honest. Just six months ago on public radio, when challenged regarding the veracity of CNN's Baghdad reports, Jordan stated:
"CNN has demonstrated again and again that it has a spine; that it's prepared to be forthright... we work very hard to report forthrightly, to report fairly and to report accurately and if we ever determine we cannot do that, then we would not want to be there [in Iraq]."
http://wnyc.org/onthemedia/transcripts_102502_jordan.html
Below, HonestReporting presents a series of op-ed columns and editorials condemning CNN's policy. At the end of this communique is a response that CNN's Eason Jordan sent to HonestReporting.
Now that this senior CNN executive has come clean, it leaves us wondering: In what other regions ruled by terrorist dictators do the media toe the party line so as to remain in good stead? It is known that the Palestinian Authority, since its very establishment, has employed brutal methods of intimidation against journalists.
For specific examples, see HonestReporting's expose, "Palestinian Intimidation of the Press":
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/Palestinian_Intimidati
on_of_the_Press.asp
Have the major international news agencies also withheld information on the PA in order to stay on good terms with Arafat's henchmen? As HonestReporting chronicled on another occasion, CNN has at the very least lent credence to patent lies stated by the Palestinian Authority:
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/critiques/Broadcasting_the_Big
_Lie.asp
Now that CNN has turned sincere, admitting it buried stories that would smear Mideast dictators, perhaps the time has come for more comprehensive, honest reporting in the region.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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A note about skepticism and doubletalk.
One thing I have noticed, especially about mouthpiece fronts offering shaded or misleading information, is the use of doublespeak terms to frame it, much like the overblown and melodramatic denials of a caught red-handed perp.
"Real Clear Politics"
"Straight Talk Express"
"Honest Reporting"
As if this overkill notation is not a dead giveaway that they are about to shade the truth on you...
And yes, BOTH ends of the political spectrum do it, I am well aware of that, but one of them has taken it to new levels of ridiculous, and as such, using such labelling severely undermines their credibility right up front, to the point where even if and when honest information is offered, everyone will automatically distrust it due to nausea from doublespeak overdose.
That bein said - what blinding revelation of the bloody obvious are they gonna focus on next, the sky is blue, water is wet ?
Telling us the mainstream media is fulla shit ain't news, hasn't been since at LEAST 1900, and probably before even that.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Quote:Erm.... uh.... aaahhhh..... no comment.
Nothing I say or post is " baseless". You ought to know that by now, sheesh.
I don't see a political motivation for this, but I do see a financial one since CNN was the ONLY western media group with a "bureau" in Iraq. I imagine much the same happens with many news organizations in hostile dictatorships. Reporters want to get the news, but they also want to stay alive. Editors want to publish the news, but they also want to maintain their "bureaus". Much the same as the White House Press Corps self-censoring their questions so they get invited back. Or the press self-censors its corporate coverage so they'll continue to get advert revenue.
I've spoken off the record with reporters, they know FAR more than they publish.That's one of the reasons why I keep urging people to look for what ISN'T in the news. The news is distorted not so much by outright lies (unless of course the press is merely passing along lies given to them by various official spokespersons, like Judith Miller and the NYT) but by selection. I get my best information by looking at the timing and tempo of a news item: when it's turned on and off, etc.
Quite honestly Rap, you're not telling us anything new. I think the difference between you and most of the rest of us is that we apply skepticism to the universe of actors, not just to those we disagree with. If all you're doing is cherry-picking the news for what you already agree with, you're not really informing yourself.
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Let's party like it's 1929.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Quite honestly Rap, you're not telling us anything new. I think the difference between you and most of the rest of us is that we apply skepticism to the universe of actors, not just to those we disagree with. If all you're doing is cherry-picking the news for what you already agree with, you're not really informing yourself.
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Hold the phone here. You accuse me of making stuff up per my comment of FACT that CNN was distorting the news by being Saddam's puppet so as to maintain "in favor" w/ the Iraqi Government.
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Is this a baseless opinion, or do you have anything to back it up?
Generally when an accusation as that has been debunked, as I did to your charge, the one making the accusation offers up an admission of being wrong ( at the very least ) and an apology. I see neither in your reply. What oddly appears as a reply on your part is the statement, " Quite honestly Rap, you're not telling us anything new. " , which simply baffles the mind. OF COURSE I'm telling you something something new, as you had no clue about this point of fact in the first place ! If you did, then why the " baseless opinion " charge in the first place ??
And to top it off, you try to some how equivocate CNN's situation to that of the W.H. Press Corps? Where is YOUR evidence, or is this nothing but baseless opinion on you part ? ( Note, I'm asking, not accusing here ) If you got anything to back up your position, lets see it.
Also, whats w/the quotes around " bureau " for CNN in Iraq ? Seems to me that you are some how dismissing that there ever was a bureau, as it was properly called. Feel free to explain that as well.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Oh, OK. What you said wasn't baseless, it WAS based in fact. So I should, and do, apologize.
But it wasn't exactly news to me either. I thought you were referring to something recent, like since 2003. I perfectly well recall CNN's vast pride in having a Baghdad bureau, and I also remember thinking Sure. Right. when they claimed we were getting 100% news. I know it's easy to claim knowledge after the fact so I really don't expect to be believed.
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WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS
Even the WHPC felt they needed to defend their performance on important occasions. This is what I could find quickly... I don't have a lot of time right now... but there's a lot more on the topic. Maybe I'll have time later.
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The press corps's barely-there performance that night, as reporters quietly melted into the scenery, coming at such a crucial moment in time remains an industry-wide embarrassment. Laying out the reasons for war, Bush that night mentioned al-Qaida and the terrorist attacks of September 11 thirteen times in less than an hour, yet not a single journalist challenged the presumed connection Bush was making between al-Qaida and Iraq, despite the fact that intelligence sources had publicly questioned any such association. And during the Q&A session, nobody bothered to ask Bush about the elusive Osama bin Laden, the terrorist mastermind whom Bush had vowed to capture. Follow-up questions were nonexistent, which only encouraged Bush to give answers to questions he was not asked.
At one point while making his way through the press questioners, Bush awkwardly referred to a list of reporters whom he was instructed to call on. "This is scripted," he joked. The press laughed. But Bush meant it was scripted, literally. White House spokesman Ari Fleischer later admitted he compiled Bush's cheat sheet, which made sure he did not call on reporters from some prominent outlets like Time, Newsweek, USA Today, or the Washington Post. Yet even after Bush announced the event was "scripted," reporters, either embarrassed for Bush or embarrassed for themselves, continued to play the part of eager participants at a spontaneous news conference, shooting their hands up in the air in hopes of getting Bush's attention. For TV viewers it certainly looked like an actual press event.
That was not the night's only oddly scripted moment. Before the cameras went live, White House handlers, in a highly unusual move, marched veteran reporters to their seats in the East Room, two-by-two, like school children being led onto the stage for the annual holiday pageant. The White House was taking no chances with the choreography. Looking back on the night, New York Times White House correspondent Elisabeth Bumiller defended the press corps' timid behavior: "I think we were very deferential because ... it's live, it's very intense, it's frightening to stand up there. Think about it, you' re standing up on prime-time live TV asking the president of the United States a question when the country's about to go to war," she told students at Towson University in Maryland. "There was a very serious, somber tone that evening, and no one wanted to get into an argument with the president at this very serious time."
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Quote:For once, the article didn't tell me anything new.
Wow, these guys are worse than I thought.
These people are as unabashedly wicked as they come.
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