Pfff, Early?
POSTED BY: Jumpy
UPDATED: Thursday, May 6, 2004 14:47
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See its my theory that while Early eventually got beaten, Boba Fett woulda been in and out with River in like 5 minutes 
And River would probably not have slipped by him and into Slave I.
But then again Boba Fett's technlogy is perhaps a little more advanced...and he has a better ship...and has kickass Mandalorian armour to boot!
...well maybe its an unfair comparison...
Mercy is the mark of a great man…*stab*…I guess I'm just a good man…*stab*…Well, I'm alright.
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Kaylee: Is that him?
Mal: That's the buffet table.
Kaylee: How will we know unless we question it?
Mal: Just don't make yourself sick.
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Hmmm...
Supposing that both the Star Wars Universe and the Firefly 'Verse were one and the same I would have to say that Boba Fett wouldn't have been able to do anything...
See, we know that Firefly is roughly 500 years in the future, right? Star Wars takes place, "A long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away..."
Assuming that Boba Fett was somehow aware that would eventually be a bounty of River and Simon... If he started his trip at the maximum Hyperdrive speed of Slave I, he would arrive in the Firefly 'Verse galaxy as a pile of dust, if Slave I even could make the trip...
So, the comparison really isn't possible, unless you want to include some time traveling Star Trek or old School Battlestar Gallactica stuff... Then you can get ALL sorts of cool wierd and interesting convergences of genre...
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Well no offense to you Jumpy or to Bobba himself if he happens to be reading this. But Bobba didn't seem to be really that good of a bounty hunter when it all comes down to it.
Basically he tracks the Falcon to Cloud City and then lets the Empire do all the dirty work. He's more like a Fed Ex boy than some terrifying bounty hunter in Empire Strikes Back.
In Return of the Jedi his big claim to fame is, well dying. He gets taken out by a blind guy with a cane if you think about it. Master of the combat arts I ain't really seeing here.
If you add in his appearence in the Star Wars Limted Edition, all he does is stand around and look Bobba-y while his boss gets talked down to by a smuggler. Not really winning many points there with me.
My whole impression of Bobba Fett is that he's at best a mid-level thug from the Henchmen's Guild who happened to have the shiniest suit. Never was all that impressed with his bounty hunting skills.
I'm thinking in a straight up fight Jubal would probably win, that is if Mal hadn't already pitched both them off into space and/or kicked one through the engine first.
That's one of the reasons I like Firefly so much, you can see a Mal-Crow relationship in your head that is like the Han-Bobba one when Crow starts his,"Save it for a funeral..." speach. but then Mal kicks Crow through the engine, problem solved. Joss surprised the hell out of me with that scene especially since the set up is there to "Do the Star Wars" thing.
Mal could kick the snot out of Han, any day of the week as well. I mean Han got totally deballed by the Special Edition, Greedo shoots first. Mal would have shot them both in the head before they were even done trying to intimidate each other.
No, I don't hate Star Wars, saw the first movie the day it opened and more times since than I can count. But for my money, now, Firefly is superior to Star Wars on many levels, and that's even letting out those new ones which I won't even comment on.
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Hee hee..Hi-larious. I could not agree more! Well, I could, but it would be silly. Not unlike ...
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Originally posted by CaptainCerentz:
Hmmm...
Supposing that both the Star Wars Universe and the Firefly 'Verse were one and the same I would have to say that Boba Fett wouldn't have been able to do anything...
See, we know that Firefly is roughly 500 years in the future, right? Star Wars takes place, "A long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away..."
Assuming that Boba Fett was somehow aware that would eventually be a bounty of River and Simon... If he started his trip at the maximum Hyperdrive speed of Slave I, he would arrive in the Firefly 'Verse galaxy as a pile of dust, if Slave I even could make the trip...
Actually, if, say, the Star Wars universe was both one million years ago and one million light years away, then if Fett's ship went at very close to the speed of light, he would arrive in the Fireflyverse at just about the right time, and he would have barely aged. I'm sure my numbers are wrong, but my basic point is that time dilation would allow Fett to arrive safely, under certain conditions. Of course, it seems the actual SW ships are FTL, and thus time dilation effects would be unknown, but whatever. :-P
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Now, now, let's keep logic and stuff right outta this. 
Oh and to stay on topic, Evil Masterminds, Niska vs. Jabba.
Hands down my vote is going for Niska, he's evil, he's spooky, he's mysterious and kooky. Plus he has a niftier Secret Lair AND a really real, honest to God Tiffany desklamp. Evil with style, that's the ticket.
Plus Niska doesn't sound like some sort of restaurant waiting to happen, I mean Jabba's an easy mark there just look at Spaceballs.
Niska has all sorts of factory like things going on at the Skyplex too, it's not like all he does is sit around on a little dias, ooh ooh ooh laugh and smoke out of a hooka while eating live things and tormenting his dancing girls. Okay Jabba gets a couple points for having dancing girls in brass bikinis, but he loses far more for trying to kill them all. So here again, points to the Niska.
He and Jabba seem to shop at the same Henchman's Guild though. It's gotten to the point where if I see some unnamed guy in the show, and he's wearing a hat, I know he's dead. Sorta like the Firefly equivilent to a Red Shirt from the Show That Shall Not Be Named.
Besides Jabba looks like a slug, Niska looks like a Satanic garden gnome. I ask you what's scarier? Slug? Satanic garden gnome? Gnome is, hands down. Plus even though he has an Eastern European name his accent sounds vaugely Swiss to me, what's more evil than the Swiss? I mean a country that pretends it's neutral yet is full of bankers, lawyers and chocolate factories. Where DO they get all that chocolate from, last time I checked the plants wouldn't grow in the Alps. Further proof that Niska is the Devil.
Ummm, okay I'm gonna go take my pills now. But trust me. Niska = Devil.
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around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"
My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html
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Originally posted by KernelM:
Actually, if, say, the Star Wars universe was both one million years ago and one million light years away, then if Fett's ship went at very close to the speed of light, he would arrive in the Fireflyverse at just about the right time, and he would have barely aged. I'm sure my numbers are wrong, but my basic point is that time dilation would allow Fett to arrive safely, under certain conditions. Of course, it seems the actual SW ships are FTL, and thus time dilation effects would be unknown, but whatever. :-P
Well, the Star Wars Hyperdrive takes a ship out of real space using the hyperdrive motivator and puts that ship into Hyperspace, where the normal laws of physics don't apply...
The ship travels at this immense speed while in hyperspace, but no time dilation effects are applied to the crew of the ship, even though the crew is traveling way beyond the speed of light. Even being in this other dimensional realm it isn't quite possible to go so fast as to instantly appear across the universe nor escape the effects of time, which would put Fett out of luck in the above example...
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Originally posted by Gunhand:
Well no offense to you Jumpy or to Bobba himself if he happens to be reading this. But Bobba didn't seem to be really that good of a bounty hunter when it all comes down to it.
Basically he tracks the Falcon to Cloud City and then lets the Empire do all the dirty work. He's more like a Fed Ex boy than some terrifying bounty hunter in Empire Strikes Back.
In Return of the Jedi his big claim to fame is, well dying. He gets taken out by a blind guy with a cane if you think about it. Master of the combat arts I ain't really seeing here.
If you add in his appearence in the Star Wars Limted Edition, all he does is stand around and look Bobba-y while his boss gets talked down to by a smuggler. Not really winning many points there with me.
My whole impression of Bobba Fett is that he's at best a mid-level thug from the Henchmen's Guild who happened to have the shiniest suit. Never was all that impressed with his bounty hunting skills.
Haha yep that's fair enough. I spose I'm speaking from a perspective of "expanded universe" Boba Fett more so than "movie" Boba Fett... OH YES, the authors of the novels and comics treat Boba VERY nicely.
He's practically superman and sherlock holmes combined into a bounty hunter.
But yes now I can understand seeing him in the movies he doesn't do a whole lot 'cpetin' look cool. lol he needed to call STORMTROOPERS to help him, and they all seem pretty useless.
ah well I still love my Boba
note: did you guys know in the star wars expanded universe Boba Fett ESCAPES from the sarlacc? hehe. They'll do tthe impossible to keep him alive for the fans
Simon: It's a wonder you're still alive.
Jayne: He looked bigger when I couldn't see him
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Originally posted by Gunhand:
Niska has all sorts of factory like things going on at the Skyplex too, it's not like all he does is sit around on a little dias, ooh ooh ooh laugh and smoke out of a hooka while eating live things and tormenting his dancing girls. Okay Jabba gets a couple points for having dancing girls in brass bikinis, but he loses far more for trying to kill them all. So here again, points to the Niska.
Now hold on a sec, what are you judging here? How busy they are and wht they dress their dancing women in? hehehe. They both seem pretty comparitively evil in this sense, what with Niska toruring the hell outta people and Jabba watching them get ripped part by the Rancor
Simon: It's a wonder you're still alive.
Jayne: He looked bigger when I couldn't see him
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