Serenity News at Dark Horizons
POSTED BY: spikeandjezebel
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 5, 2004 05:01
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Originally posted by fireflyfanUK:
ok dont ask me how i found my way to this post cos hello, this is the most confusing forum on the planet :)
ever been to the bronze beta? Haken does an amazing job w/ this site and i find it quite easy to navigate. (nothing against the bronze, it's just confusing!)
oh ya, and welcome!
~lissa, spwhore
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Yeh i dunno maybe its best to wait until its verified a little more clearly about what was said before we jump to conclusions?
Anywayz the fan base is getting stronger and stronger by the day so who knows where the future will take firefly.
Mercy is the mark of a great man…*stab*…I guess I'm just a good man…*stab*…Well, I'm alright.
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I think Nathan said something like that the contracts had been set up to do a trilogy if the first film was successful, and then he said something else which I interpreted as that there was some clause which meant a tv show wouldn't happen within a limited time until the options expired. So I would agree with both what Wren wrote and the other post - no one's saying a tv series won't happen again, but not while there are successful movies.
But wouldn't that be standard industry practice these days anyway? Not that I know about this stuff, but the "trilogy contract" seems to be normal for genre films.
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This seems closest to what was said. I was there also at Blackpool. Yes, a movie is coming, but no, not a TV series continuation due to clause not allowing them in set time frame, this was part of deal with the movie. Obviously if the movie is received well they may renegotiate, but going from TV to film back to TV? I kinda doubt and suspect more along lines of movies, also the strain of getting 9 actors together again, unless they have a deal they can't hang around, all need to work. Basically its good news for us, we get to see more of the characters we love and in new material, so we aint limited to the eps that would be worn out if my DVDs aged like my old VCR tapes.
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Originally posted by debbiebuk1:
I think Nathan said something like that the contracts had been set up to do a trilogy if the first film was successful, and then he said something else which I interpreted as that there was some clause which meant a tv show wouldn't happen within a limited time until the options expired. So I would agree with both what Wren wrote and the other post - no one's saying a tv series won't happen again, but not while there are successful movies.
But wouldn't that be standard industry practice these days anyway? Not that I know about this stuff, but the "trilogy contract" seems to be normal for genre films.
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i dont mean to start another "i hope fox dies a horrible fiery death" thread, but i dont understand why joss cant put aside his resentment towards the station, and bring back the series. I cant possibly wait 5 years until the rights can be transferred. seems to me that fox can make a lot of money on it (if our BDM is a hit at the box office.....which ill personally ensure with the amount of times im going to see it) anyone with some insight??
::curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal!::
midnight30
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Originally posted by shaun:
i dont mean to start another "i hope fox dies a horrible fiery death" thread, but i dont understand why joss cant put aside his resentment towards the station, and bring back the series. I cant possibly wait 5 years until the rights can be transferred. seems to me that fox can make a lot of money on it (if our BDM is a hit at the box office.....which ill personally ensure with the amount of times im going to see it) anyone with some insight??
Joss's feelings probably have very little to do with this. After reading the announcement of the movie in the trade paper Variety, here's what I think the variables are, and how they played out.
1. FOX the tv network cancelled the show. They would have had to license it from another branch of Newscorp, 20th Century Fox studios, and I assume that once they cancel the show, the license expires at some point. As far as I can tell FOX the network is not even involved in these negotiations any more.
2. 20th Century Fox studios has a contract with Joss Whedon that gives them the exclusive right to produce any tv series he wants to do. I don't know the terms of this deal and whether it has to do with a certain number of years or a certain number of shows. So far 20th has produced all three Whedon series, and they still own the exclusive television rights to Firefly, which was produced under the terms of this agreement and is, in fact, their property.
3. When no television network opted to pick up Firefly after FOX cancelled it, Joss hit upon the idea of doing a movie. 20th Century Fox did not want to do a movie version of Firefly, but they allowed Joss to pitch the idea to other studios. Universal opted to option the movie rights. Supposedly Universal had for a long time wanted to sign Joss to a multi-picture deal, and his price for agreeing was that the first film be Serenity.
4. Universal, thinking they might have a movie franchise on their hands if Serenity is successful, did not want it to compete against a revived television series. Universal does not have the rights to put Firefly on television and part of their agreement to do the Firefly movie(s) was contingent on 20th Century Fox agreeing not to return the television series to production within a certain time frame specified in the contract, presumably the time frame in which Universal would produce its Firefly triolgy.
Cardie
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NICE, lucid summary, Cardie!!
Thanks for putting this in Shrink/Fan Dummy-Talk. makes sense.
Interestingly, there is nothing in this situation which either prescribes or precludes the return of Firefly to TV at some future time. It is thus a perfect optimism/pessimism diagnostic tool (like the proverbial glass...though there's always a wise-ass like George Carlin who says that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be!).
I'm coming down on the side of: "Possible. Buy many movie tickets and tweak the odds!"
Keep flyin'!!
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