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The monster that is Monsanto

POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Friday, May 9, 2008 15:49
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Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:51 PM

Wow, these guys are worse than I thought.

Monsanto’s Harvest of Fear
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805?cur
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And a thumbs up to Vanity Fair for a rare case of actual dirt-diggin journalism, instead of the unvetted corporate press releases everyone else seems intent on handing us.

-F

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:34 PM

If Vanity Fair writes about it, I'm less inclined to believe it.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Wow, these guys are worse than I thought.


I bet they even throw some of their seeds out the window as they pass farms so they can "get" them later (not kidding here).

The fact that a life-form can be patented is just more proof that greed rules.

They live; we sleep Chrisisall

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
If Vanity Fair writes about it, I'm less inclined to believe it.


Your post sounds less fact-based than prejudice-based there AU, but then your fierce, desperate devotion to the status-quo is well known in these parts.

You just don't get it Chrisisall

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
If Vanity Fair writes about it, I'm less inclined to believe it.


Your post sounds less fact-based than prejudice-based there AU, but then your fierce, desperate devotion to the status-quo is well known in these parts.

You just don't get it Chrisisall





I'm just reminded of the 'chicken little' crusades that some well intentioned do-gooders went on, like when we had the Alar scare with apples , or how BIG ( insert business field ) does nothing but evil and gives nothing back to humanity. Some folks simply can't exist w/ out the notion that somebody else is doing something evil and making lots of $$ while doing it. Hey , here's a news flash.....just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's evil or wrong.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:13 PM

Chris, Rap never actually reads the posted links, cause they might interfere with his carefully constructed bubble.

Might wanna take that into account, since he's likely unaware of the articles content.

-F

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RUE
Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:23 PM

I see another issue here - the fact that the US citizen doesn't have the constitutional right to privacy. The Bill of Rights - sadly shredded of late - ONLY protects you from the federal government and possibly (though not certainly) other levels of government.

Employers, businesses, patent-holders - they are legal forces unto themselves and you have no constitutional protection against them.


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Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:39 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Chris, Rap never actually reads the posted links, cause they might interfere with his carefully constructed bubble.

Might wanna take that into account, since he's likely unaware of the articles content.

-F




Quick, come up w/ another excuse for me not possibly buying into the hate Monsato club!

From the 2nd line of the article -
Quote:

Just as frightening as the corporation’s tactics–ruthless legal battles against small farmers–is its decades-long history of toxic contamination.


This is reporting ? NO, This is fear mongering and opinionated bias on the highest level. What's to believe ?


It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:20 PM

Auraptor- You're "less inclined" to believe an article because it was in Vanity Fair?

Okay, DON'T believe it. You shouldn't. You should be a skeptic. Do some research. Find out for yourself. Give us a few solid, well-researched reasons why the linked article is wrong.

But I know you won't do that because you fear accidental contact with fact more than anything. You're afraid of what you might find it you actually rooted around that big wide world of facts out there.

BTW- how's that economy going?

You see 'Rap, you can try to avoid the truth. Run and hide. But sooner or later, it'll bite you anyway.


I agree with Rue, not surprisingly. Corporate-libertarians are so fucking focused on gummint they don't see the nasty big alligator behind them.

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RUE
Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:24 PM

Hey RAP

It took me less than 20 seconds to find this (and I'm a bad typist) ...

http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/pubs/CFSMOnsantovsFarmerReport1.13.
05.pdf


2005 report documents Monsanto's lawsuits against American farmers, revealing thousands of investigations, nearly 100 lawsuits and numerous bankruptcies.

... AND this.

http://www.pubpat.org/monsantorejections.htm

NEW YORK – July 24, 2007 -- The Public Patent Foundation (PUBPAT) announced today that the United States Patent and Trademark Office has rejected four key Monsanto patents related to genetically modified crops that PUBPAT challenged last year because the agricultural giant is using them to harass, intimidate, sue - and in some cases literally bankrupt - American farmers.

Monsanto has filed dozens of patent infringement lawsuits asserting the four challenged patents against American farmers, many of whom are unable to hire adequate representation to defend themselves in court. The crime these farmers are accused of is nothing more than saving seed from one year's crop to replant the following year, something farmers have done since the beginning of time.

One study of the matter found that, "Monsanto has used heavy-handed investigations and ruthless prosecutions that have fundamentally changed the way many American farmers farm. The result has been nothing less than an assault on the foundations of farming practices and traditions that have endured for centuries in this country and millennia around the world, including one of the oldest, the right to save and replant crop seed." The lawsuits filed by Monsanto against American farmers include Monsanto Company v. Mitchell Scruggs, et al, 459 F.3d 1328 (Fed. Cir. 2006), Monsanto Company v. Kem Ralph individually, et al, 382 F.3d 1374 (Fed. Cir. 2004) and Monsanto Company v. Homan McFarling, 363 F.3d 1336 (Fed. Cir. 2004).


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