Imponderables: Between The Lines

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 3:45 PM

Hey y'all. Just starting a new thread.

Thread previous: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=33093&m=597243#597243

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 3:47 PM

Oooh and i have a ponder...
when starting a new job, how much of your quirkiness should you show ???

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
when starting a new job, how much of your quirkiness should you show ???

I go with little to none for the first month. Then slowly ease people in to it.

I'm all super professional at work most of the time.

Speaking of which I'd probably die if I was the guy who made a mistake on a conference call yesterday. My female co-worker/friend was telling me about this guy who tried to say "if I was in your shoes I'd..." but slipped and said "if I was in your pants". My face would instantly turn beat red and I'd apologize about a million times.

On a side note did you see How I Met Your Mother, MsB? The last two episodes have been really good IMO. I loved this one with the bracket of the 64 women Barney has scorned the most. "Evil twin! Evil twin!" lol

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:45 PM

"Larney!!!" (Tackle)

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:45 PM

Yeah I laughed abd laughed about that. I love when he appologized to the wrong woman...

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 6:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
"Larney!!!" (Tackle)

Haha exactly. That part was awesome. Those writers are really good with jokes like that. I don't really get why the show struggles in ratings. It's one of the best sitcoms around right now.

MSB

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 6:31 PM

It's so funny... I also love the big bang theory...

I didn't know it was struggling...oh of course, funny well written, and I like it...obviously going to get shunted aside...sigh

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 6:45 PM

From what I read the network already renewed a bunch of shows but How I Met Your Mother was not on the list. They haven't said it's canceled, but they haven't said it's not canceled either. I think some of the hinting they're doing about the mother right now is to allow themselves a quick resolution to the series if they get canceled. :-(

HOBBLEIT

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 7:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
when starting a new job, how much of your quirkiness should you show ???

I go with little to none for the first month. Then slowly ease people in to it.

lol, me too.

Most people think I'm normal. Then they get to know me and find out I'm rather strange

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WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Oooh and i have a ponder...
when starting a new job, how much of your quirkiness should you show ???

Finally, something I can answer!

I think you should keep it in at first and feel the people out. If they are quirky it will show. Let your quirkiness out slowly, but I think that your co-workers should be fully exposed by three to six months (depending on how quirky thay are).

Of course some quirks you just keep to yourself for the most part.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."
http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:21 PM

Afternoon folks. Had to run home for a nap. Totally pooped from some sort of thingy going around. Could even be the sudden change of season, change in diet, or stress. Either way it sucks. Too much to do and too little energy.

Oh well. Maybe I can watch Sweeny Todd with MSB tonight while working on stuff for the show.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:38 PM

Yeah that's what I figured...kind of be normal until they are used to me. Also, think I shoulddefinitely bake some brownies and muffins for my first day as they've been ever so patient about all these delays...

HUGS NV oh babe I am so sorry ( he's just worn out) nice nourishing food for dinner and plenty of rest...

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:42 PM

Well, gotta put in some work to pay for the fun stuffs. In the hole a little and I want to pay it back quick.

Oh, I GOT MY 1911 BACK!!!

I also got a very upgraded Smart Parts SP8.

Pretty much got two for about sixty percent of their actual $$$ worth. Smokin' deals.

ADD: Just a thought...Should we try meeting up with any Vegas Browncoats while we're there? Naturally I gotta think of these things last minute.

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ZEEK

Thursday, April 3, 2008 2:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
ADD: Just a thought...Should we try meeting up with any Vegas Browncoats while we're there? Naturally I gotta think of these things last minute.

When are you going to Vegas? Me and my brother are going the weekend of the 19th.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:06 PM

Dang. Seems everyone will be there on staggard weekends. We'll be there this weekend until Monday. Gonna give my brother his birthday gift early and hopefully take him to a field to use it before we leave. I repainted and function tested my old marker so hopefully he can get into shooting a bit before he gets time off and heads up here for a bit. He's really into OPFOR assignments and occasionally they get to hammer away at eachother with paintball markers. Luckily they don't use SIMUNITIONS as often. SIMUNITION is actual brass loaded with a paint projectile. Not fun when you take a hit. I figure on helping him find he edge when in a fire situation during an OPFOR assignment. Might even loan out the A5 on occasion as it is pretty much the equivilant of a SAW and he'd rock off some socks with it.

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Don’t waste yourself in rejection, nor bark against the bad, but chant the beauty of the good.
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MSB

Thursday, April 3, 2008 5:27 PM

All I have to say to that is...OW

NV for being so incredibly sweet.( Let me sleep in and took care of everything this morning)

Hey Zeek...damn we'll miss you too??? This is annoying

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:21 PM

OK so what would you guys do if you just start getting tons of mail for some dude? A few times I've written "return to sender - does not live at this address" and a big arrow to the guy's info. The stuff just keeps coming though. I've lived at this address for over a year now. So, I doubt it was the previous resident. I figure it's someone who lives in the same apartment complex who messed up his address on stuff. It would be fairly easy to do since my apartment complex spans two sides of the street and has the same apartment numbers on both sides just a different street address.

Should I venture across the street and find my apartment number over there and ask if that's the dude? Should I just keep doing return to sender? Should I not care and throw everything out until he realizes his mistake?

MSB

Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:35 PM

I'd go across and check and see if that mail belongs to him It's not a big deal and it might reall yhelp him out. If it were you, wouldn't you really appreciate it if someone tok a few minutes to let you know??

If it's not him, I'd call the post office and ask them what you need to do to stop it from happening.

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
I'd go across and check and see if that mail belongs to him It's not a big deal and it might reall yhelp him out. If it were you, wouldn't you really appreciate it if someone tok a few minutes to let you know??

But I'm shy and lazy. :-(

Maybe I'll work up the guts though one of these days.

MSB

Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:55 PM

Well you could just go over and dump it in his mailbox with a note saying. This keeps getting deliverd to me. Is it yours?

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Thursday, April 3, 2008 8:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Well you could just go over and dump it in his mailbox with a note saying. This keeps getting deliverd to me. Is it yours?

Yeah I figure they wouldn't answer the door anyway since we get bombarded by people selling magazines at this complex. Jerks.

Speaking of jerks have you checked out http://www.tedmosbyisajerk.com/? It doesn't have much content or anything, but the letter is cool.

over 500,000 hits. The show has some dedicated viewers.

LEOPARDFLAN

Friday, April 4, 2008 12:08 AM

That's a good idea.

Maybe not as satisfying as holding a burn party, when you put up adds or something about the mail, and then when they come over, you burn it in front of their eyes , but it's probably a lot more ethical.

Now I have an Imponderable: What is a really good reason to do this stinking science homework, something to actually get me to get it done instead of procrastinating for forever until it's tomorrow, and I end up getting 50% instead of 75% off (because its already a day late)???

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FREELANCERTEX

Friday, April 4, 2008 12:53 AM

DO YOUR GORRAMN HOMEWORK

i have an imponderable...what's a 'Larney'?

MOBBEX

Friday, April 4, 2008 1:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
Now I have an Imponderable: What is a really good reason to do this stinking science homework, something to actually get me to get it done instead of procrastinating for forever until it's tomorrow, and I end up getting 50% instead of 75% off (because its already a day late)???

Procrastination is a bad habit that's really hard to get rid of once it's sinked in?

LEOPARDFLAN

Friday, April 4, 2008 1:22 AM

Oops... its kinda sinked in right about now

I must do homework...I must do homework...I must do homework... Maybe if I say this enough times I'll do it...I must do homework...I must do homework...

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98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.

MOBBEX

Friday, April 4, 2008 3:56 AM

But you're young, so you can still shake it off i f you jiggle with enough conviction.

*hands LeopardFlan a bottle of amphetamines*

These should help...

ZEEK

Friday, April 4, 2008 3:13 PM

The thing about procrastination is managing it properly. If you're going to procrastinate then you have to be a very good judge of how much time something will actually take.

As long as you still get things done on time then I'm fine with procrastinating. Heck I just got my taxes done last week. It's still on time so no problems. In high school there was a standard practice of doing my homework for the next class during the class the period before that one. Of course that only works if you know the portions of work given for homework only take about a half hour to half ass.

In conclusion, procrastination is a lot of hard work and should only be attempted if you're willing to put in the effort.

A Larney is a made up evil twin of an evil person named Barney. Duh.

ZEEK

Friday, April 4, 2008 6:45 PM

Hi Zeek!

I agree with you about the procrastination thing. You seem both wise and awesome. I aspire to be more like you.

So, how is your Friday going?

Ponderable: where is everybody?

ZEEK

Friday, April 4, 2008 7:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Hi Zeek!

I agree with you about the procrastination thing. You seem both wise and awesome. I aspire to be more like you.

So, how is your Friday going?

Ponderable: where is everybody?

Hi!

I am pretty awesome. Thanks for noticing. I wish I could help you in your goal to be more Zeeklike, but it's unteachable. Sorry, either you're this great or you aren't.

Friday is moving along slowly. I could tell it was going to be one of those days though. Woke up to the gloomy rainy weather. Actually I woke up totally startled by my alarm and in my half awake state I knocked the glass of water I keep by the bed across the room. That woke me and the cat up pretty quickly though. Can't wait until it's quittin time though.

I don't know where everyone else is. Maybe there was an apocalypse I'm not aware of. *wanders off to cnn.com to check*

ZEEK

Friday, April 4, 2008 8:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
I don't know where everyone else is. Maybe there was an apocalypse I'm not aware of. *wanders off to cnn.com to check*

Dude no apocalypse here. Maybe they're just scared off by our man love for each other, Zeek. I don't care though. You're my soulmate and they'll just have to get used to that.

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Friday, April 4, 2008 8:55 PM

O_o

*backs away slowly*

o_O

ZEEK

Friday, April 4, 2008 8:57 PM

All work and no ponderers make Zeek go crazy.
All work and no ponderers make Zeek go crazy.
All work and no ponderers make Zeek go crazy.
All work and no ponderers make Zeek go crazy.
All work and no ponderers make Zeek go crazy.
All work and no ponderers make Zeek go crazy.

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Friday, April 4, 2008 9:19 PM

Bleh, I know what you mean. My day so far has consisted of people not taking meetings seriously enough and then getting pissed off at me when they're not prepared to handle the complicated math we have to hash out before the end of the day. Getting the math figured out and turned over to the programmers was my assignment for the week, and them being unprepared and procrastinating is making me look bad. That and stupid executive assistants thinking that everyone can read fucking .docx files. Seriously people, you can't just assume that contractors will all have Office 2007. It's impolite, to say the least.

Ah well, at least it's Friday -- oh, and I just won some really cute jeans on ebay, so I'm a happy girl, the above notwithstanding.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

ZEEK

Friday, April 4, 2008 9:30 PM

CK is slipping. That almost included some info about her super secret CIA spy mission.

I guess that's what craziness at work does to a person.

Though I can't really get on my high horse about ignoring meetings. There are just so many and most of the time they just make everyone either bored or angry at the ignorance of someone who gets to make decisions.

LEOPARDFLAN

Friday, April 4, 2008 9:53 PM

HI!! Hmm, a ponder, a ponder, a ponder to pondr to keep ya'll company while I'm stuck at school.... hmmm....

Okay, got one. How ethical would it be to slap your parents across the face whenever they hit you? I'm getting pretty tired of getting hit whenever my grades get to a C just because they've got a scarier temper then I do.

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ZEEK

Friday, April 4, 2008 10:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
HI!! Hmm, a ponder, a ponder, a ponder to pondr to keep ya'll company while I'm stuck at school.... hmmm....

Okay, got one. How ethical would it be to slap your parents across the face whenever they hit you? I'm getting pretty tired of getting hit whenever my grades get to a C just because they've got a scarier temper then I do.

Uh...they shouldn't hit you at all. Hitting them back is not the solution either. You need to have a talk with them about how it makes you feel. Especially the part where it's teaching you to be violent. Clearly it has not inspired you to never get a C again. So, that strategy has failed. Also explain to them that child abuse is never acceptable and that there are many out reach programs they can go to for counciling. MsB can probably rattle off a long list.

My parents never hit me when I was growing up. Possibly effected by the fact that my parents were divorced. I could easily see my Dad being a violent guy at times. I also still did just fine in school without threats. Threats don't work. You have to want to do well. What they should be focused on is explaining to you the reason they want you to focus on your school work. IMO it's absolutely essential these days. The jobs are drying up out there. If you don't get into a decent college and separate yourself from the pack then you're going to have a much harder time in the future.

I always wanted to be successful and that was motivation enough for me. This really took off when I found a course I was really interested in. Have you found a course that really peaks your interest yet? If not keep looking.

Hope you get all this worked out. Cause I simply do not approve of parents hitting their kids. Not cool.

OK I'm out for the day folks. Good luck LeopardFlan.

LEOPARDFLAN

Friday, April 4, 2008 11:21 PM

Ummm.... I'm sorry, but "talk to them" and "my parents" do not go together in the same sentence. And normally I'm not violent- I'm not strong enough to be violent. Weakling with pencil arms pretty much describes me in that area.

See, the thing is I tend to be a little apathetic about my homework sometimes, and grounding me doesn't work to make me do my homework, because I'm kinda weird in that I passively don't let anyone make me do anything- I'll take what they dish out (work detail, hittings, stuff like that), but I don't let their actions decide what I do, so I end up not doing my homework more, and the grades begin a slow decline down the tube (because I still do work in class) until the new nine weeks, when they unground me and it starts over again. I'm pretty sure the spell of apathy would go away after a few days, but....

Yeah, I know all the reasons to do well, but sometimes my apathy just can't be helped for a spell. It goes away after a few days, but punishing me doesn't make it any better. Actually, i think it might be due to sleep problems, but whenever I get grounded, they don't let me go to bed early because they don't want me to "get out of doing work", unless I specifically get an earlier bed time, but when I'm ungrounded and actually doing homework I need more time in the evenings!

Feel free to ignore me, just need to rant a little sometimes.

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98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.

MOBBEX

Saturday, April 5, 2008 1:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
Ummm.... I'm sorry, but "talk to them" and "my parents" do not go together in the same sentence. And normally I'm not violent- I'm not strong enough to be violent. Weakling with pencil arms pretty much describes me in that area.

See, the thing is I tend to be a little apathetic about my homework sometimes, and grounding me doesn't work to make me do my homework, because I'm kinda weird in that I passively don't let anyone make me do anything- I'll take what they dish out (work detail, hittings, stuff like that), but I don't let their actions decide what I do, so I end up not doing my homework more, and the grades begin a slow decline down the tube (because I still do work in class) until the new nine weeks, when they unground me and it starts over again. I'm pretty sure the spell of apathy would go away after a few days, but....

Yeah, I know all the reasons to do well, but sometimes my apathy just can't be helped for a spell. It goes away after a few days, but punishing me doesn't make it any better. Actually, i think it might be due to sleep problems, but whenever I get grounded, they don't let me go to bed early because they don't want me to "get out of doing work", unless I specifically get an earlier bed time, but when I'm ungrounded and actually doing homework I need more time in the evenings!

Feel free to ignore me, just need to rant a little sometimes.

I can tell from experience that sleep deprivation wrecks havoc with your drive & focus. If you feel like a little extra sleep would help you at school, maybe you could try working out some kind of compromise with your parents

LEOPARDFLAN

Saturday, April 5, 2008 1:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mobbex:
Quote:
Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
Ummm.... I'm sorry, but "talk to them" and "my parents" do not go together in the same sentence.

I can tell from experience that sleep deprivation wrecks havoc with your drive & focus. If you feel like a little extra sleep would help you at school, maybe you could try working out some kind of compromise with your parents

Thanks, and I really appreciate the advice, but read the first sentence in my rant- I deleted everything else in the quote to make it stand out.

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MOBBEX

Saturday, April 5, 2008 3:14 AM

Darn... they do seem a bit jerky on the edges.

There has to be some sort of dialogue going on for your family life to even exist. I don't know, maybe you could try to get your point across... diplomatically or something, like "Mom & Dad, work with me here..."

...I'm not being much of a help, am I? I'd gladly come over and give you a big hug, but I live like 2,000 miles away -_-

e-HUGS LF

LEOPARDFLAN

Saturday, April 5, 2008 3:23 PM

*gets e-hugged* Thanks!

Hmmm.... maybe I could leave a note and stick it on their bed.... they can't interupt and explain The Right Way/ The Right Opinion to a note....

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SPACEANJL

Saturday, April 5, 2008 4:28 PM

Leopard, Your parents hit you when your grades slip? Seriously?

That is fucking wrong on so many levels. The advice about getting counselling sounds right to me. Is there anybody you can tell about this, or go and stay with? Because as a motivational tool, that is just so much bullshit. Your spells of apathy and passive response sound more like the beginnings of a severe depressive state as a reaction to abuse.

Good grades leading to good college leading to good job...well, life ain't necessarily so, but it does give you more options. But if you can't do maths or economics, then you can't, full stop. (I had a friend whose parents made her study chemistry - they wanted a pharmacist, when her grades weren't good enough for medicine. She failed her degree. But she is now the head of division in a company, because her skills are in computing and business - if her parents had let her study that, she'd have got at least an upper second.) Beating you round the head won't make you good at something. And that needs to stop as a response.

ZEEK

Monday, April 7, 2008 2:38 PM

LeopardFlan I just can't imagine your parents won't have a discussion with you. If they pay attention to your grades then obviously they care on some level. You should be able to explain to them how their method doesn't work.

ZEEK

Monday, April 7, 2008 7:19 PM

Zeekikins all alone again? I missed talking to you all weekend. So good to see your text again. I hope your weekend went well and you're having an amazing Monday.

*thinking of you*

Love, Zeek

COPILOT

Monday, April 7, 2008 7:39 PM

So this is what I realized this weekend. I've been (emotionally) holding my breath for nearly a year. I feel like I just exhaled. This is amazing.

An I carried such a torch

SPACEANJL

Monday, April 7, 2008 7:41 PM

Timezones are a weird and wonderful thing, Zeek...I'm coming to the end of my Monday here (well, I'm about to turn my box off and go and watch 'Chuck'...did hear a rumour there might be an AB sighting to be had...)

*blinks* there was a restraining order? On little me?*

ZEEK

Monday, April 7, 2008 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by copilot:
So this is what I realized this weekend. I've been (emotionally) holding my breath for nearly a year. I feel like I just exhaled. This is amazing.

What were you holding your breath for? Were you waiting for something to happen or fearing that something might happen?

What's an AB sighting? Adam Baldwin? AfterBurn? Altered Beast? Albino Bear? African Belephant? (ok that last one's a stretch)

I thought Adam Baldwin was a regular on Chuck. I've only seen like the first 5 episodes though.

COPILOT

Monday, April 7, 2008 11:56 PM

I felt like I was holding my breath trying to be good all the time. I finally decided to just relax. It is awsome and so am I

An I carried such a torch

LEOPARDFLAN

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 12:50 AM

Good for you!

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98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.

ZEEK

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 3:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by copilot:
I felt like I was holding my breath trying to be good all the time. I finally decided to just relax. It is awsome and so am I

So now you're being bad? hehe

Even though you wrote "awsome" I'm thinking you meant "awesome". If so welcome to the awesome club.

Hugs and

es Zeek! (is my relationship with myself filling the void of no MsB & NVG?)

MSB

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 4:09 PM

Morning all...sorry we were out of town as NV was a demonstrator at the Clark COunty Museum for their native arts festival...

Ok wow I missed a lot

LF- It is NEVER acceptable to hit your child. That is abuse and they could go to jial or t the very least lose custody of you for it. Ok so first we need to find what does motivate you.... what activities do you do without prompting and why? What do you want out of life?> Is there a job you have in mind? Whne you picture your life in 10 years, what does it look like? Do you have a job? An apartment or house? What is it you want? Once you know that, then you can find a way to get it...but slapping you won't bring up your grades. It willbuild your resentment and increase your apathy. You will hunker down and endure rather than achieve because you have no reason to do otherwise... Please get help!!!

CK- HUGS and sorry for the frustration

Copilot- hey sweety so how is everything? Sounds like things are getting better:)

HUGS Anjl:)

HUGS Zeek- nice procrastination :)

HUGs Mobbex

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 4:37 PM

Hey ther Copilot!!! HUGS!!!

You are Teh AwEs0mE!!! Glad you feel it 'cause everyone else feels it too.

We miss you too Zeek.

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Don’t waste yourself in rejection, nor bark against the bad, but chant the beauty of the good.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

MSB

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 5:44 PM

Thought of a ponder....why do people enjoy gambling??? "cause I have to say it's really boring.

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 6:06 PM

I mentioned it to MSB but for those who haven't seen, machines these days offer flashy video screen bonuses and gratifying lights and sounds. Addiction: if I had money to throw away I'd throw it into the Star Wars machines. Funner than all get out.

DOn't know why people do it. They just do.

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Don’t waste yourself in rejection, nor bark against the bad, but chant the beauty of the good.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

ZEEK

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 6:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
We miss you too Zeek.

Not as much as I miss Zeek. You'll never love Zeek like I do. Stay away from my man!

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Thought of a ponder....why do people enjoy gambling??? "cause I have to say it's really boring.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!! Money is fun. Gambling gives the illusion that you can make money multiply. Plus in some casinos they actually have hot cocktail waitresses bring you free booze. I'm confused about what part you think is boring.

COPILOT

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 7:28 PM

MSB I don't understand gambling either. Point of fact I work in a casino. Just thought I'd say that.

An I carried such a torch

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 7:29 PM

I almost forgot. Some recommendations fpr ya Zeek. At lunchtime I will fet the menu of an AWESOME place with the best Philly CHeese Steak sandwhiches. I ended up tipping near fifty percent to the guys behind the counter.

Yeah, that good. Also there is a Paintball field in Vegas now that i can recommend if you arte interested. They have rentals and such so no worries.

Fun trip (but very tiring).

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Don’t waste yourself in rejection, nor bark against the bad, but chant the beauty of the good.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

MSB

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 7:33 PM

Oh yeah that sandwich shop was INCREDIBLE:)

Ok so I just put up some pics in the picture thread so you can all see how amazing NV truly is

Zeek honey...need some lithium?? HUGS

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ZEEK

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 8:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Zeek honey...need some lithium?? HUGS

*Zeek is ignorant of the common uses of lithium*

maybe....what would I be doing with this lithium and why?

Zeek

MSB

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 9:24 PM

Well you're already talking to yourself...
Lithium is a mood stabalizer

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ZEEK

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 9:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Well you're already talking to yourself...
Lithium is a mood stabalizer

Thanks but no thanks. I'm happy being the new hot imponderable couple in town. It keeps things rolling when everyone else is all quiet.

MSB

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 10:00 PM

and you are a very cute couple... HUGS

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LEOPARDFLAN

Tuesday, April 8, 2008 10:37 PM

Well, theoretically I know why people like gambling (what Zeek said), but I don't comprehend why they are willing to risk so much (I understand, I do not comprehend type thing.)

And yes, Zeek, you're a cute couple.

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98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 12:37 AM

Awww. (Looks at the cute couple Zeek)

Flying home. G'night.

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MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 12:59 AM

Ah home... traveling is fun, but honestly....home is better:)

Now I have to get back to roasting the chicken and cutting bread to make stuffing:)

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LEOPARDFLAN

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 1:35 AM

:drool: Chicken and stuffing....

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MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 2:53 AM

HUGS LF:)

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MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 2:55 PM

Bumping for joy.... good morning:)

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ZEEK

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 3:14 PM

morning MsB.

*snuggles Zeek* we're cute!

Speaking of snuggling any word on RIMG? I can't fill the void of everybody who isn't posting lately. He's the resident snuggler and I think he should keep that role.

RUGBUG

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 3:36 PM

Hi Folks.

Missed ya. Seems there is double the Zeek to go around. :D

I'm off to the picture thread to check out the other cute imponderable couple.

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MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 3:44 PM

HUGS Zeek...aaaaaw you're so cute

HUGS Rugbug. So what have you been up to sweety?

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ZEEK

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:03 PM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
Seems there is double the Zeek to go around. :D

Double your pleasure, Double your fun!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:33 PM

Good morning Ponderers. Workin' on getting a ton of stuff done so I can Schmooze (sp?) with some of the out of town paintball groups this weekend. Networking is hard.

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MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:56 PM

ah the scmoozing.... but hey it'll be worth it:)

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FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 5:59 PM

I've got an imponderable: why, in the entirety of the 'Verse, do english teachers insist on teaching books, written by depressed suicidal authors who have been dead for a century?

why can't we learn the new, more interesting stuff?

RUGBUG

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 6:28 PM

Works sucks. Horse is broken. I did buy a new car, though. That's fun.

MSB...I thought those first house pictures posted were your new domicile. Eek. Glad too see there aren't paint ball stains on your walls.

And, um, wow. There is white stuff on the ground. What is that?

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
I've got an imponderable: why, in the entirety of the 'Verse, do english teachers insist on teaching books, written by depressed suicidal authors who have been dead for a century?

why can't we learn the new, more interesting stuff?

Because you'd read the "new, more interesting" stuff on your own and avoid the depressed suicidal authors without their guidance?

I think I probably argued the same thing when I was a teen...but now I love the classic. I loved some of them back then, too...but now I have an appreciation even for the ones that I didn't like.

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MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:03 PM

Which depressing suicidalauthors are you talking about???

HUGS and LOL Rugbug :) Fallon does get snow though it's been alternatingly cold and windy with warm and sunny...so not snowy anymore

Sorry about the job...hey what happened to your horse???

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ZEEK

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:32 PM

Rugbug, broken horse? What's broken about it? Does it bark instead of whinney? Is whinney the sound a horse makes? Sounds more like a young girl's name from an old tv show. Still that's the only horse noise I can think of.

FREELANCERTEX, that should be obvious. English teachers are all lazy. So, they pick old books that have been analyzed to death already. That way all they have to do is plagiarize someone else's work and they're done. *Zeek runs and hides*

OK OK that's an exaggeration but at the same time it holds some truth to it. The classics are classics for a reason. They're well written and have a good message. Plus there is already usually an accepted analysis of the books. Therefore you don't learn one thing from one teacher and another for some other teacher. You also end up getting some culture out of it. If you're at a party and someone makes a Great Gatsby reference and you don't get it because your teacher liked Stephen T. Colbert's "I Am America and So Can You" then you're left looking uneducated. So, go ahead and read the classics. They really aren't as bad as you might think.

Also, don't base your enjoyment of the book on the author's personal life. One of my favorite books is written by a jerk. It doesn't change that the book is really good.

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 7:33 PM

i hate the "classics" theyre not classic at all, theyre dull :-P and boring. ><

hemingway mostly, MSB @_@ *kills self* he's not a creative writer, he's a comentative writer. I can write a commentary on life for pete's sake. how does being a depressed expatriate in the 1920s make u special?

MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:04 PM

I don't teach Hemmingway as I am not a huge fan. ...

But classics like To Kill a Mockingbird, Rebecca, etc are really wonderful and shouldn't be ignored:) But I do agree that new stuff ( for example Watson's go to Birmingham 1963 ) should also be included.

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RUGBUG

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:
i hate the "classics" theyre not classic at all, theyre dull :-P and boring. ><

hemingway mostly, MSB @_@ *kills self* he's not a creative writer, he's a comentative writer. I can write a commentary on life for pete's sake. how does being a depressed expatriate in the 1920s make u special?

I'm not a big Hemingway fan. I also didn't much like The Scarlet Letter when I read it, but after some time passed and a re-read, I realized it's not nearly as awful as I though. Didn't really like 1984, or Call of the Wild or Animal Farm. But I'm glad I read them all.

I did enjoy Pride and Prejudice immensely: Jane Austen is my favorite author. To Kill a Mockingbird is my favorite book. Where would I be if I hadn't been forced to read those? I never would've read A Separate Peace. I think Fahrenheit 451 should be required reading.

Ah...books...I Loves them.

In other news: The horse has a tear in his right front lateral suspensory branch. This it be bad. This it be really bad for selling. He is on a 9 month re-hab program to get him back to where he was before injury. That means I don't get to ride him...or buy a new horse for minimum of those nine months. Well, that's an exaggeration. I will get to ride him for five minutes at a walk in about three months...and then gradually increase both time and speed. This news does not excite me as horse will be full of himself from standing around for three months. Please stayed tuned for details of my funeral.

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ZEEK

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
This it be really bad for selling.

I bet a barking horse would have sold pretty well though. Gotta be some circus money in something like that.

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:54 PM

I LOVE To Kill A Mockingbird ^_^ so does my mother. it's so cute. u ever see the movie with gregory peck? they did an awesome job with it.

ZEEK

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 9:22 PM

Since we were on the topic of gambling recently I'll post this link I found pretty funny.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/story.html?id=ed508192-ff32-4ab3
-9ed9-73c0d2164770&k=86189

Check out that picture and see if you can tell what's wrong. Non-poker players might not have much chance sorry.

LEOPARDFLAN

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 9:56 PM

Not going to quote anyone, but replying to several posts (I think):

First of all, I'm going to be displeased with someone's statement, about learning the same things from different teachers. First of all, why would two teachers in a row teach the same book? And second of all, why wouldn't you want a different take on books? Like one way to analyze the book is the only, right way, and there can't possibly be another take on the book that isn't wrong? That's what that statement sounded to me.

And, tex, my personal theory why the classics are classics is because A- they're old, and thus a piece of history, and B- these books (poems, plays, etc.) were written at a time when no-one wrote anything, and so were automatically "great" because people at that time didn't have anything to compare those works with, and people today stuck to the sterio-type, and didn't bother to think of how good it would be consitered if someone tried to send it in today, when there's alot of good work out there for the old piece to be compared to.

I, personally, think that we should leave those "classics" to those studying past literature. I'm not slamming any of them (except Longfellow and Shakespeare )

Actually, I kinda have questions as to why we have to take so much English nowadays. I understand the need to read and write, it's eccential, but that's already covered in grade school, and in high school it's mainly reading whatever works, when unless you're studying to be a literary analist of something, it's not going to do you alot of good. And we don't get much writing, and I'm pretty dang sure that there are more people that want to become editors than literary analists.

More later, but there's a thunderstorm going on

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MSB

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:03 PM

HUGS Rugbug...oh sweety that is awful. I am so sorry. The poor horsie and you're right he'll be a handful and a half after all that time cooling his heels...

I'd also include Wuthering Heights, Jayne Eyre, and Shakespear's sonnets are definitely worth reading.

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RUGBUG

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:16 PM

Aw, but reading is another form of experiencing. It broadens your outlook, allows you to sympathize, makes you question what you 'know' about the world by adding a different perspective. For example, you will probably never experience the humility of being branded an adulterer for all to see, but you can read one person's take on what that might be like. Then when you experience being an outcast, you will relate and possibly understand it more fully.

Reading enriches our knowledge of not only history and interpersonal relationships, but also vocabulary, sentence structure, grammar, etc.

(Egads, MSB. I can't believe I forget Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre. I LOVED Jane Eyre. I also adored Anna Karenina and The Brothers Karamozov. I went through a Russian literature phase that ended with me not being able to get through The Idiot, but I do still love Doestevksy.)

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ZEEK

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
First of all, I'm going to be displeased with someone's statement, about learning the same things from different teachers. First of all, why would two teachers in a row teach the same book? And second of all, why wouldn't you want a different take on books? Like one way to analyze the book is the only, right way, and there can't possibly be another take on the book that isn't wrong? That's what that statement sounded to me.

I'm not saying in a row like one grade to the next in the same school. I'm saying high schools across the nation more or less will teach you the same stuff about The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn as they will anywhere else. Sure it won't be word for word and they won't necessarily emphasis the same parts, but more or less you'll learn the same stuff. Where if every teacher picked out their favorite books from all the books ever written then students would be getting some very different educations in literature.

even a simple google search produces links like this http://www.enotes.com/finn-lesson/

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, April 9, 2008 11:22 PM

I'm a fan of some of shakespeare's works. hamlet CREEPS me OUT in a way few novels can, i can NEVER stop laughin at Much Ado XD and despite what some ppl think, i'm a fan of romeo and juliet, cuz even though its a tragedy, the way i look at it is 'well, theyre together no matter what, now.' if u cant be together in this life u can in the next one

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:47 PM

Good morning Ponderers. Brain is so far below the ability to get into any sort of literary discussion so I'll simply kick back in the corner with my tropical trail mix and coffee cup of Diet Pepsi.

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ZEEK

Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:58 PM

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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
I'll simply kick back in the corner with my tropical trail mix

Tropical trail mix sounds yummy. What's in a tropical trail mix anyway?

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:38 PM

Lets see...
Almonds, Macadamia nuts, peanuts, cashews, date pieces, fig pieces, big pineapple pieces, cranberries, cocoanut slices, banana slices, and possibly more stuff.

Yummy.

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FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:53 PM

eh?

SOLARFLARE

Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:55 PM

I used to be an English teacher. A teacher should be able to explain why a work is important.

It also depends on the class that's being taught. Is it a survey course (or a high school course) where you're trying to get students to begin to appreciate literature, or is it a high level course where you're exploring advancements within a time period or within a genre?

I always thought it was a mistake to teach something like "Death of a Salesman" or "Long Day's Journey into Night" in an introductory level course. Sure, they're great works, but how much depression do you want to throw on a new student?

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, April 10, 2008 5:12 PM

Tropical Trail mix silly girl.

Oh

YAY FOR TEACHERS!!!

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Don’t waste yourself in rejection, nor bark against the bad, but chant the beauty of the good.
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FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, April 10, 2008 5:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SolarFlare: I used to be an English teacher. A teacher should be able to explain why a work is important.

It also depends on the class that's being taught. Is it a survey course (or a high school course) where you're trying to get students to begin to appreciate literature, or is it a high level course where you're exploring advancements within a time period or within a genre?

I always thought it was a mistake to teach something like "Death of a Salesman" or "Long Day's Journey into Night" in an introductory level course. Sure, they're great works, but how much depression do you want to throw on a new student?

there are a few older stories that i absolutely LOVE, like The Once and Future King by T.H. White, and despite what some people say about Sir Walter Scott, i find his writing style absolutely amazing (i wish i could write like that). but the problem is stories like that, and like Count of Monte Cristo, The American Captain, all those, aren't ever taught in schools. instead they teach john fucking steinbeck

who's so depressing he'd make ANYONE want to commit suicide, and ethan frome

and ernest hemingway

all the "classics" that make me never want to read another book ever again (and that's saying a LOT because i LOVE to read. i read three books at a time cuz i'm afraid i'll never have time to read all the books i WANT to read) and the classics class i took last semester was the same way, we were reading all this old shit that was boring as HELL. thank GOD we read Hamlet, cuz otherwise i would've strapped myself to a catapult and hurled myself into the nearest volcano.
And yeah, the teachers explain why THEY like the book and why every other analyst out there thinks it's an important work, but times have LONG since changed since all those stories were first considered classics. why can't the teaching of literature evolve with the type of story that's being written NOW?

NV: take all the nuts out and leave the fruit and i'll eat it :-P

MOBBEX

Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:13 PM

I can't really comment on matters of english literature, being francophone & all, but it's funny how your english teachers and my french teachers seem cut from the same cloth ^.^

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Originally posted by freelancertex:
take all the nuts out and leave the fruit and i'll eat it :-P

Wait, you don't like nuts o_O?

FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, April 10, 2008 7:50 PM

francophone?

no, i dont like nuts i'll eat peanut butter, that's the closest i'll get lolz

MSB

Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:50 PM

Hey all...

Finally I get to start my job tomorrow:) Yippee

Poor NV definitely an early night tonight.

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

MOBBEX

Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:12 PM

Thatz gr8 MsB ^.^ !

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Originally posted by freelancertex:
francophone?

no, i dont like nuts i'll eat peanut butter, that's the closest i'll get lolz

Yeah, francophone. It means "french-speaking" and can be used both as an adjective and a noun.

And how can you not like nuts? How can you not LOVE almonds??? (and almond paste

) You trully belong in a nuthouse

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