Turns out it was all just hot air...
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I'd like to have the source for that Reagan quote, and the context.
Conversely, I am fact based, not fact challenged, as y'all are.
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Quote:BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Good one, AU!!! Glad I wasn't drinkin' soda just then!!! *wipes tear from eye*
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I am fact based, not fact challenged, as y'all are.
The climate's changin'. Maybe mostly a natural cycle...maybe man-hurried...but the facts are undeniable. It's gonna be a bumpy ride, and I'm prepared- are YOU?
Weather-proofing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'd like to have the source for that Reagan quote, and the context.
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Reagan was quoting John Adams' well-known quotation, facts are stubborn things. He certainly knew the correct words--it was a simple misstatement--but it makes a funny quote in its own right.
There ya goisall

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'd like to have the source for that Reagan quote, and the context.
Ask, and ye shall receive...
"Facts are stupid things." –Spoken by Ronald Wilson Reagan at the 1988 Republican National Convention, attempting to quote John Adams, who said, "Facts are stubborn things".
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Good one, AU!!! Glad I wasn't drinkin' soda just then!!! *wipes tear from eye*
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I am fact based, not fact challenged, as y'all are.
The climate's changin'. Maybe mostly a natural cycle...maybe man-hurried...but the facts are undeniable. It's gonna be a bumpy ride, and I'm prepared- are YOU?
The climate's ALWAYS changin', which explains why we have ancient human dwellings in caves beneath the waves in the carribean, and marine fossils in Kansas.
Glad you find facts so funny, Chris.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'd like to have the source for that Reagan quote, and the context.
Ask, and ye shall receive...
"Facts are stupid things." –Spoken by Ronald Wilson Reagan at the 1988 Republican National Convention, attempting to quote John Adams, who said, "Facts are stubborn things".
Mike
Well, we can give Ronnie a pass on that one, seeing how he was busy saving the entire human race from thermo nuclear war, what w/ defeating the Soviets and all. At least Reagan knew who John Adams was, unlike Algore.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, we can give Ronnie a pass on that one...
Shocker!
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Quote:We ALL take facts, process 'em in our heads, run 'em through our particular life-experience-filters, and then come up with a perception of reality. I, for one, am unfit to say I know the COMPLETE score on everything (or ANYTHING, for that matter). We must all be prepared to re-examine our beliefs at a moment's notice, otherwise the only thing we can be reasonably certain of is that our perception is most probably self-serving & incorrect.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Glad you find facts so funny, Chris.
That's the facts, Jackisall

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Well, we can give Ronnie a pass on that one, seeing how he was busy saving the entire human race from thermo nuclear war, what w/ defeating the Soviets and all. At least Reagan knew who John Adams was, unlike Algore.
Well, isn't that convenient? Of course, once again, and as usual, you're assuming facts not in evidence - dangerous territory for a "fact based" life form (or biped) such as yourself, eh?
What's your source and context to prove that Reagan had any idea who John Adams was, or that Al Gore doesn't?
"Saving the entire race from thermo nuclear war?" Seriously? When during Reagan's time in office were we under imminent threat of nuclear attack, other than the time he stated that we'd begin bombing in five minutes?
By your litmus test, Kennedy must get a pass on that whole bullet-catching incident, as well as everything else he did, since he'd been busy saving the planet from thermonuclear war, too.
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
What's your source and context to prove that Reagan had any idea who John Adams was, or that Al Gore doesn't?
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/081588b.htm
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Before we came to Washington, Americans had just suffered the two worst back-to-back years of inflation in 60 years. Those are the facts, and as John Adams said, ``Facts are stubborn things.'' Interest rates had jumped to over 21 percent, the highest in 120 years, more than doubling the average monthly mortgage payments for working families -- our families. When they sat around the kitchen table, it was not to plan summer vacations, it was to plan economic survival. Facts are stubborn things.
See there, he quotes one of Adams most famous speeches.
I suspect AlGore knows all to well who Adams is but is less then familiar with facts. His climate change routinely ignores the facts and evidence that global warming, like global cooling, is simply not happening. I've cited numerous articles from the 1930s on where about every ten years they claim in bold headlines either 'GLOBAL WARMING' or 'GLOBAL COOLING' when in fact its no hotter or colder now then it was ten or even 100 years ago. The only inconvienant truth AlGore has ever stumbled across is the fact his book and theories belong in the fiction section of the bookstore.
That said, I enourage everyone to watch the John Adams mini-series on HBO...its really good. Episode 2, where they proclaim independence, is particularly well acted.
H
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