Turns out it was all just hot air...
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UPDATED: Saturday, April 19, 2008 03:13
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So why even try to bring science into the equation?
Because it's better than sticking our fingers in our ears and saying "Nya Nya, I can't hear you" like you and others do.
I'll take science over rationalizing or self-denial any day.
Besides, I though you wingnuts stick to the "the science isn't conclusive" meme? It can say it's not man-made if it's inconclusive. Can't have it both ways, Rappy.
Yes, we I can have it both ways, because it's inconclusive. Your default position is that ANY change is "man made " , when in fact that hasn't been proven. And I enjoy you wingnuts calling US the wingnuts. That truly is precious.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
So why even try to bring science into the equation?
Because it's better than sticking our fingers in our ears and saying "Nya Nya, I can't hear you" like you and others do.
I'll take science over rationalizing or self-denial any day.
Besides, I though you wingnuts stick to the "the science isn't conclusive" meme? It can say it's not man-made if it's inconclusive. Can't have it both ways, Rappy.
Yes, we I can have it both ways, because it's inconclusive. Your default position is that ANY change is "man made " , when in fact that hasn't been proven. And I enjoy you wingnuts calling US the wingnuts. That truly is precious.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
No, my default position is "play it safe, just in case". Besides, I don't see a cleaner enviornment as having a down side if it's not true.
And no, you can't have it both ways, unless you are being a total hipocrit. You can't say there's nothing conclusive - and then state a difinitive conclusion, dipshit.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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No, my default position is "play it safe, just in case". Besides, I don't see a cleaner enviornment as having a down side if it's not true.
And no, you can't have it both ways, unless you are being a total hipocrit. You can't say there's nothing conclusive - and then state a difinitive conclusion, dipshit.
Yes, you can have it both ways, and I'll leave off the childish profane insult. Since we don't know if/ how man has any role in rising temps, we can conclusively say that we don't know what effect, if any , cutting our 'carbon footprint' will do for the planet.
Face it. You being wrong is no reason for me to resort to calling you all sorts of childish names, now is it ?
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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"Science doesn't side w/ the ' man made global warming' crowd, never has."
It doesn't ? Do you have any proof of that ? Or are you just talking out of your butt, again ?
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See, Rap belongs to the Auraptor School of Economic Analysis. It's proven so gratifying he's now applying the fact-free approach to everything else!
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Let's party like it's 1929.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Since we don't know if/ how man has any role in rising temps, we can conclusively say that we don't know what effect, if any , cutting our 'carbon footprint' will do for the planet.
But that is not what you said. You said that we were not having a effect on the enviornment. You got called on your double-speak, and once again, danced danced danced your way around the issue.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by Storymark:
No, my default position is "play it safe, just in case". Besides, I don't see a cleaner enviornment as having a down side if it's not true.
No new factories, oil refineries, power plants...not to mention throwing coal miners, loggers, and related service workers out of their jobs. Higher taxes, higher unemployments, higher energy costs, inflation, fire, flood, disease, animal overpopulation, bad TV (did you see 'Green Week' on NBC), turning off City lights for no reason, having to listen to AlGore, feeling guilty for dumping oil down the sewer, recycling (its a pain), treehuggers, Greenpeace, crazy folks burning down my new expensive house, and lastly...I miss coke in a glass bottle.
"No new factories, oil refineries, power plants"- this is silly, if we built new ones they'd be cleaner and more efficient then ones built prior to 1980, and we could start phasing out the older ones.
H
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Originally posted by Storymark:
No, my default position is "play it safe, just in case". Besides, I don't see a cleaner enviornment as having a down side if it's not true.
No new factories, oil refineries, power plants...not to mention throwing coal miners, loggers, and related service workers out of their jobs. Higher taxes, higher unemployments, higher energy costs, inflation, fire, flood, disease, animal overpopulation, bad TV (did you see 'Green Week' on NBC), turning off City lights for no reason, having to listen to AlGore, feeling guilty for dumping oil down the sewer, recycling (its a pain), treehuggers, Greenpeace, crazy folks burning down my new expensive house, and lastly...I miss coke in a glass bottle.
New energy sources would have to be utilized, which would cover the jobs angle. The rest is just hysterical bullshit.
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"No new factories, oil refineries, power plants"- this is silly, if we built new ones they'd be cleaner and more efficient then ones built prior to 1980, and we could start phasing out the older ones.
H
That would be preferable to the current "No, no, no, I'm not gonna listen" form of denail so many are in.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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So, by using your "scientific" methods, whereby you constantly point out single incidents as proof of an overall trend, or disproof of climate change, let me offer this "proof".
A couple years ago, Austin, Texas recorded the highest temperature EVER recorded in the city or the area - 114 degrees Fahrenheit. I offer that as absolute, incontrovertible proof that global warming exists.
Hey, it's as valid as anything you've ever offered in the other direction...
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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Originally posted by SignyM:
See, Rap belongs to the Auraptor School of Economic Analysis. It's proven so gratifying he's now applying the fact-free approach to everything else!
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Let's party like it's 1929.
No, 'Rap is following his idol, that other dipshit, Ronald Reagan, who said, and I quote:
"Facts are stupid things."
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock
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