Serenity didn't do too badly, but then Joss had to dumb that baby down for the multiplexes.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, April 7, 2008 10:13
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See, I think if Serenity was a three part story on the Firefly set, like the last three episodes, no one would be saying that it was much different- that it just finished the story in a blast, and no one would even consider that it was a little light on character- they'd just say it was a cool ending to the series. The main reason for any negative comments IMO is that it's judged as a separate entity, and I don't see it as such, for me, it's just the finale, and everything in the series led up to it. It's one BIG story to me...
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I don't think it was dumbed-down. It was different, surely, but different mediums have different requirments. It retreaded some character stuff, but that's nessesary for a new audience. A 2-hour episode of the series, put into theatres, with nothing to help new audiences catch up, would have been a failrue.
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Quote:Kinda like showing the series out of order, hmmmmm....?
Originally posted by Storymark:
A 2-hour episode of the series, put into theatres, with nothing to help new audiences catch up, would have been a failrue.
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I also don't think it was dumbed-down at all. My first viewing ( never having seen Firefly at that point ) I really didn't have any idea of who these people were, or what was going on. I watched it and loved it...not because it was an extension of the series; I loved it becuase it represented something I hadn;t seen in sci-fi films in about 25 years....that being great characters and great story. Subsequent viewings after watching the series have made Serenity only better for me. So many little subtleties in the BDM that whisked right over my head originally now make sense, and are like little gems of brilliance. I never get tired of the movie...I've seen it at least 20 times in the last 2 years...and I continue to enjoy it as much today as ever. Compared to the series it is darker and deadlier, and the "issues" in play are more dramatic and significant than anything in the series. When you watch Serenity, and then you watch something like Star Wars 1-3, you really see how Joss's focus on characters and dialogue greatly trumps gratuitous, even predicably boring special effects.
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I'm just reposting this so I don't have to type it out myself. Well said, Sir or Ma'am.
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
I don't think it was dumbed down as much as turned into a space ship action flick, which robbed it of the kind of quiet little character moments that make Firefly so brilliant.
I recall Joss saying at some point or another that the romance bits with Inara were cut so it could be marketed as an action movie. I interpreted that as Hollywood forcing everything be fit a genre, when Joss at his best defies such paltry definitions.
The movie still rocks, of course! Just not as much as Firefly.
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Originally posted by mal4prez:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I heard it was to serve 'momentum'...Joss wanted a movie's pace to the movie, but I wish we had an extended cut....GRRRR
But why did it *have* to have an action movie's momentum? Why couldn't the tension come more from the characters (as it did in Firefly) and less from chasing about in a hurry with gunfights and explosions etc etc etc?
(Before I get flamed - yes, I know Serenity did have character tension more than most space action flicks, and I do love the movie. Lots and lots! But it just isn't as brilliant as Firefly ismypointisall. It was a change.)
Extended cut? I'm all for that.
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It wasn't dumped down, it was a movie as opposed to a TV series. The same principle applies to ANY movie that is based on a TV series - more action, less character development and "inside" jokes.
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