Our President
POSTED BY: howdyrockerbaby1
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 21, 2025 16:36
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Steve, just out of curiosity, why do you think I'm putting you in with the 70%?
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Whew.... I feel better now... I had to barf all of that conspiracy bullcrap out of my system. Thanks....
Don't bother, I know next you will be talking about how Jews all moved out of Europe before WWII ever happened and they are all happily scurried away in the US; or maybe how The Illuminati rules over the U.S. and will be dominating the entire Universe (oh, my bad, it's just the Earth after all) with the New World Order; or maybe how the Federal Income Tax is a big fraud and is completely illegal; or maybe the Federal gov is a big cooperation back when Lincoln signed our country away into debt; or each baby's footprint taken at the hospital (before their feet touch anything else) is a bondage to the Corporate US, or maybe how the Federal gov's powers are supposed to be restricted to just the D.C. are and has never been extended any further; or maybe how NASA faked the entire Apollo moon landing (Was it in Nevada or in New Mexico?).
oh wait, you've had your kidney/bladder/liver removed and is right now sitting in a bathtub full of ice and trying to dial the hotel operator to get help. Oh, what?!? That's a hoax?! Damn...
Yeah, other people get to read the same crap on the internet that you do - except other folks read it, laugh out loud at the sort of idiot who take this shit for real and waste their little hamster cage cycles rattling on about useless crap when there are plenty of other shit out there in the world that needs people to think about. If the world's conspiracy theorist toss out their paranoia collectively and put their little hamsters to work - maybe we can solve world hunger. Or maybe not, since world hunger was also invented and dreamed up by those sickos in the government trying to enslave your mind. Oh, the horror!!! Xenu has arrived!
No, keep feeding me that stuff. Really, it's quite entertaining. I just can't believe that rational and reasonable folks actually believe these horse pucky - wait, rational and reasonable folks *DON'T* belive in that horse pucky...
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Anybody know what the heck Jasonzzz is on about?
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Ghoulman,
ROFLMAO..."Netiquette".
I do believe there was a post by you that used the words F**k Off! LOL. So much for the "netiquette" LOL.
I am not for a war on Islam. I'm for the complete annihilation of all militant Islamafascists. There's a difference. It's unfortunate that many good muslims have had their religion hijacked.
/laughs at Ghoulman
In the Proverbial words of Conan hehe " Crush the enemy, drive them before us, and hear the lamentation of their women"
Moving on to some real political MB's where constructive debate takes place.
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^^^ See? TROLL. You're not nearly as bright as you think are ya?
Islamifascists? Fascism doesn't mean that. Buy a dictionary genius.
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Can anyone from either side of the fence here tell me why political discussions like this inspire such contempt in y'all? Can anyone tell me what kind of thrill or satisfaction you get out of calling someone a moron over and over again online? Do you really believe that you're contributing to the forum in any way? Or do you consider this thread to be your own private cyber-spittoon? Seriously, there have been some interesting things discussed on this thread and there have been some interesting posts that have been drowned out by the constant bickering. What have you got to say for yourselves? Anything?
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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"Anybody know what the heck Jasonzzz is on about? "
You actually have to try to read the whole thread to understand what he's talking about.
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Originally posted by Steve580:Quote:
Most Americans (70%) are incapable of independent thought.
What the f##k? Just where in the hell did that statistic come from?
I think he should tell us where it comes from.
We can't think for ourselves.
H
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Steve580, Jasonzz is a perfect example of why I think that most Americans are incapable of independent thought. (Or, in Jasonzz case, any thought at all.)
With no facts on his side, Jasonzz spews. What he's doing here... "I know next you'll be talking about...Jews... Illuminati... NASA...kidney..." is called the straw man argument- putting words into my mouth because he can't rebut what I REALLY said. This part ... "folks read it, laugh out loud at the sort of idiot who take this shit for real and waste their little hamster cage cycles rattling on about useless crap..." is called "begging the question". In other words, he uses his ASSUMPTION as the proof of his assumption. They're pretty easy rhetorical dodges to spot, once you know what you're looking for you'll see them all the time in right-wing opinion-pieces and papers like The Federalist.
Unlike Jasonzz, I at least TRY to discern reality. So, as proof of my other post, here is information about Feith, Wurmser, Perle, Wolfowitz et al with references to their actual works in such radical, conspiracy-minded publications as The Wall Street Journal. Just so you don't have to, I DID look up these references, they're bona fide. And to provide context, here is the chain of command:
Cheney
Rumsfeld
Wolfowitz
Feith
Wurmser
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"Wurmser would be the founding participant of the unnamed, secret intelligence unit at the Pentagon, set up in Feith's office (OSP)... While the CIA and other intelligence agencies concentrated on Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda as the culprit in the 9/11 attacks, Paul D. Wolfowitz and Feith obsessively focused on Iraq. For years... [Feith] had been... beating the drums for war against Iraq. Along with Perle and Feith, in 1996 Wurmser and his wife, Meyrav, wrote a provocative strategy paper for Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu called 'A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm.' It called on Israel to work with Jordan and Turkey to 'contain, destabilize and roll back' various states in the region, overthrow Saddam Hussein in Iraq, press Jordan to restore a scion of the Hashemite dynasty to the Iraqi throne, and, above all, launch military assaults against Lebanon and Syria as a 'prelude to a redrawing of the map of the Middle East which would threaten Syria's territorial integrity.'
"In 1997, Wurmser wrote a column in the Wall Street Journal called 'Iraq Needs a Revolution' and the next year co-signed a letter with Perle calling for all-out U.S. support of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), an exile group led by Ahmad Chalabi, in promoting an insurgency in Iraq.
At AEI, Wurmser wrote 'Tyranny's Ally: America's Failure to Defeat Saddam Hussein', essentially a book-length version of 'A Clean Break' that proposed an alliance between Jordan and the INC (Chalabi) to redraw the map of the Middle East. Among the mentors cited by Wurmser in the book: Chalabi, Perle, and Feith."
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I know I didn't directly answer your question about that 70%. It's a composite of various poll and study results that demonstrate sheer brainlessness. Here are some stats:
65% of the average American would torture an unknown study subject with 450 V shocks, despite screams and pleas, on the sheer say-so of the "investigator".
70% still believe that Saddam had something to do with 9/11.
At one point, 90% thought that invading Iraq was a great idea.
Given those stats, I think my composite is pretty accurate, possibly even generous. There's only one reason that I can think of why people would act this way: sheer, unadulterated cowardice.
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Believe me, Doran, I have. All the heavy conspiracy theory posts are from two days ago (three days ago now). Jasonzzz's extreme reaction seemed to have some kind of immediate inspiration. I thought maybe Jasonzzz had a broader definition of conspiracy than I do, wide enough to encompass something that had been said in the last two days (I'd have asked Jasonzzz but he seemed to be too busy cyber-puking for reasonable discussion). Also his remark about rechannelling conspiracy theorists' energy to illuminate small midwestern towns (I think that's what he said, can't check while I'm posting, sorry) seemed to suggest that conspiracy theorists were far more numerous and influencial than I ever thought they were. Also I felt that it was the height of redundancy to tell a conspiracy theorist that he's full of crap, not because they are, mind you, but because conspriracy theorists get told they're full of crap about as often as someone makes a typo on the internet.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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