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Hillary and Bill - Biggest liars EVER to live in the White House

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:34 AM

Although it is hard to beat the King of Whoppers FDR, the co-presidents certainly took the cake, and keep it. If they get in again, will they have the top 2 positions, or combined into just one?

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:38 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Possibly the biggest distortion of fact ever delivered in the English language. Nothing could be more fully opposed to the truth, nothing more diametrically opposite from reality.



I just had to post this again. It deserves to be saved from accidental erasure for posterity.

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:43 AM


well shit...Auraptor has spoken(not with his mouth mind you...that's too full of Neocon Jizz at the moment)...

what I find remarkable is that generally speaking, Democrats, liberals, liberatrians on this board have not had a hard time calling a spade a spade in any party...the funny part is that nobody disputes she lied..nobody even disputes that her saying she mispoke is probably a load of horseshit....

Seriously...the truth isn't as bitter as what you're swallowing...you should try some.

but you and your ilk Auraptor, are undaunted...do you really need a daddy that badly that you can't look critically at a person in office if your handlers tell you he's Jesus' second coming and Patton wrapped up in one...

..........

Let's just start with one item and try to clear it up shall we?

Are you suggesting there were no wiretaps on people who were U.S. citizens without the acquisition of a Fisa Warrant? Because Bush certainly got up in front of the American people and said there were none.




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Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:54 AM

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But next to Bush? They're practically paragons to honesty.




Possibly the biggest distortion of fact ever delivered in the English language. Nothing could be more fully opposed to the truth, nothing more diametrically opposite from reality.



Thank you for the late night laugh.

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 4:56 AM

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Cheney didn't lie about Iraq and 9/11....



Christ, what the hell are you on, kid? He's been caught on video saying they were connected (a lie), and then again on tape saying he never said that(another lie).



How deluded are you?

Wait, nevermind. You answer that with ever post.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 8:24 AM

This probably depends upon what your definition of then word "is" is.
Lying under oath (Slick) and in court (Hillary) are different from lying to the press, or lying to youtube, or lying to the Russians.

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 9:45 AM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:


what I find remarkable is that generally speaking, Democrats, liberals, liberatrians on this board have not had a hard time calling a spade a spade in any party...the funny part is that nobody disputes she lied..nobody even disputes that her saying she mispoke is probably a load of horseshit....

Seriously...the truth isn't as bitter as what you're swallowing...you should try some.

but you and your ilk Auraptor, are undaunted...do you really need a daddy that badly that you can't look critically at a person in office if your handlers tell you he's Jesus' second coming and Patton wrapped up in one...

..........

Let's just start with one item and try to clear it up shall we?

Are you suggesting there were no wiretaps on people who were U.S. citizens without the acquisition of a Fisa Warrant? Because Bush certainly got up in front of the American people and said there were none.




I LOVE how you are now trying to turn this story around to not involving Hillary - AT ALL. Sorry, but I'm not gonna play that game. Want to discuss other's short comings ? Start your own thread. But to answer you anyway, yes, no wire taps were on people solely in the U.S. unless they were in conversation w/ known suspects from outside the country. You have to reveal the whole story first before you can have an honest conversation.

And knock off the crude side comments. It only takes away from what little legitimacy you have here. Smarmy comments like yours don't make your case any stronger and aren't nearly as cute and clever as you may think.


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Thursday, April 3, 2008 9:58 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Cheney didn't lie about Iraq and 9/11....



Christ, what the hell are you on, kid? He's been caught on video saying they were connected (a lie), and then again on tape saying he never said that(another lie).



How deluded are you?

Wait, nevermind. You answer that with ever post.




Cheney was not caught on tape saying they were connected. At issue is what the Czech's said they could confirm, or not confirm, about Atta meeting an Iraqi official in Prague. 7 seconds of video taken out of context isn't exactly damning evidence. Sorry. He said it was neither confirmed or denied. And if the intel he got DID say it was " pretty well confirmed " , and he repeats that, so frackin' what ? He's suppose to say " Well, intel might SAY that, but I know more than what my intel is telling me , so I'll just say what ever I want ? " Sorry, that's not what happened. And you know it.

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 12:04 PM

I spent so many years hating and despising the Clintons that there is nothing left inside of me to feel anything about them anymore except a little over-due respect.

Bill Clinton : 8 years as President...My life was very good during those years. I don't think he did anything extraordinarily bad, with the single exception of not dealing with Al Qaida and their attacks on Americans and American's interests. As a "feared" Democrat, those fears proved to be quite un-true, as I do not recall any adverse effects concerning my Federal taxes...if there was a tax increase I don't recall feeling it. I do recall that I made a nice nest-egg of money buying and selling stocks for about 8 years. The whole Monica thing for me was ridiculous and absurd. Special Prosecutors!...Henry Hyde Impeachment madness!...For what? It was a political lynching of the most vile kind. And the bottom line to it all was that Clinton had the last laugh....he went on to make mega-millions, and is still revered today as a great President by many. His legacy is that he is perhaps the last President who served during good & normal times. I don't blame Bush for the 911 attacks, but I do blame him for promulgating and perpetuating this weird, funky malaise that we have found ourselves in during the last 8 years. It's like everything has stopped, and the only thing we have to live with and hear about every f'ing day is terrorism this & terrorism that. I'm f'ing sick of it. Yes we have to deal with it, but we don't have to make it the central focus of our social or political culture. Just like I don't want to hear about the Pizza Hut delivery guy in one-tooth, Tennessee getting mugged 3 times either. The Bush era has perfected a culture of deceit and blunders, something quite new and shocking for old fogies like me.

Hillary Clinton : I don't hate her anymore...I actually have to admire her, if only for her courage to get up every day and face what she faces every day. The media are all too willing to throw her under the bus these days...I think that's an indictment against them, not her. They were the ones with the love-fest going on for 16 years, but now they're all gaga over Obama. She must be feeling a lot of pain, as one by one, all her friends and former trusted allies are abandoning and betraying her. She works hard every day...then she gets up and puts on her make up and gets ready to face the meat-grinder every day. So what if she exaggerates about Bosnia experience? So What? It doesn't mean squat...what irks me about is that the media has nothing better to do than investigate every fucking gotcha opportunity they can.....just to sell their stupid show to some stupid advertiser...if they're gonna go gotcha-shopping about everything a candidate says during a campaign, then we're all gonna be hammered with one "scandal" after the next for the next 5 months. Enough already....nobody remembers these things anyhow once their shelf-life expires.

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 3:41 PM

It's folly to try to argue with someone suffering from pervasive delusions. I suggest that we don't even try.

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