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That's what governments are for- get in a man's way...what's so hard to understand here?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, April 10, 2008 21:15
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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
The moon rotates and shows different faces constantly, hence, NOT a coin...hovever, the Sun circling the Earth is an entirely understandable (if wrong) concept.



But it doesnt, we only see one face of the moon, it's face locked to the Earth, that is why there is an "unseen" dark side.

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:56 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:


But it doesnt, we only see one face of the moon, it's face locked to the Earth, that is why there is an "unseen" dark side.

No way, it rotates- it can't possibly be the EXACT same side year round, that's just crazy-talk. The far side is fully 18% visible on different full moons, killing the coin theory.

Astronomical Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:57 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
What was this thread about again?

How we shouldn't raise any government up as something to be blindly followed...and astronomy.

Blind Chrisisall

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RUE
Wednesday, April 2, 2008 6:33 PM

My entry was to try correct some badly mangled statements claimed as facts. I just hate seeing obvious errors merged into the common 'wisdom' unaddressed.

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Ah, but it does - by the fact that the horizon advances with every mile you advance.


Unless you've gone all the way around then you can't prove this to be true. How do you know that just one mile more you wont see the edge? You know it through education and pictures and modern thinking, but I doubt you or the average 'Earth is flat' type from long ago ever went all the way around to find out for sure.

Things are not so obvious until they are established fact, explained by science, and accepted into the collective knowledge of everyone.

For example, I never could prove by first hand knowledge the existence of England until I visited there some years back. Up until then it was a matter of faith and fairytale as real or unreal as any other place seen old in story and picture. Now take someone without anything to base such faith upon...perhaps someone that knows nothing of England, perhaps does not even suspect England. Their subsequent belief that England does not exist is perfectly reasonable given the extent of their knowledge. Likewise it is impossible to understand their point of view to someone for whom such knowledge is readily apparent.

The world was not flat...but there was a time when for all mankind knew it could have been. Such time has passed and perhaps we are all a bit diminished for it.

H

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:17 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:

Things are not so obvious until they are established fact, explained by science, and accepted into the collective knowledge of everyone.


In a time long ago I would have STRONGLY suspected the Earth was round for my stated reasons, just as I STRONGLY suspected the WMD thing was a hoax, er, I mean, error.
Some of us are blessed with gifted insight to go along with simple logic, I suppose.

Not that difficult Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:24 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
No way, it rotates- it can't possibly be the EXACT same side year round, that's just crazy-talk. The far side is fully 18% visible on different full moons, killing the coin theory.



Unless there are different moons...In ancient times, Chinese people believed that there were twelve Moons as there were twelve months in one year. At the beginning of each month, the mother, Heng-O, washed her children in a lake at the extreme western side of the world. Then each Moon, one after the other would travel in a chariot for a month journey to reach the opposite east side of the world.

Or perhaps the moon is merely starving himself in an eternal chase of the sun as the Inuits believed: Anningan (aka Moon Boy) continually chases his sister, Malina, the Sun goddess, across the sky. During this chase, he forgets to eat, and he gets much thinner. This is symbolic of the phases of the moon, particularly the crescent.

To satisfy his hunger, he disappears for three days each month (new moon) and then returns full (gibbous) to chase his sister all over again. Malina wants to stay far away from her bad brother. That is why they rise and set at different times

The Hindus explain it this way: The Moon was thought to be the storehouse of the elixir (Soma aka Diet GodCoke). When the gods drink soma, it is said that the Moon wanes because the gods are drinking away some of its properties. Some people think that the Moon is inhabited by a hare. That is why all hares are viewed as incarnations of Soma.

And for native Americans:
January Wolf Moon Hungry wolf packs howled at night
February Snow Moon Heaviest snowfalls in the middle of winter
March Worm Moon Start of spring, as earthworms (and the robins that eat them!) began to appear
April Pink Moon An early spring flower called "moss pink" started to bloom
May Flower Moon Many types of flowers bloom in May
June Strawberry Moon Strawberries were ready to be picked and eaten
July Buck Moon New antlers of buck deer, coated with velvety fur, began to form
August Sturgeon Moon Sturgeon, a large fish found in the Great Lakes, were easily caught at this time of year
September Harvest Moon Farmers could continue harvesting until after sunset by the light of the Harvest Moon
October Hunter's Moon Hunters tracked and killed prey by moonlight, stockpiling food for the coming winter
November Beaver Moon Time to set beaver traps before the swamps froze, to make sure of a supply of warm winter furs
December Cold Moon The cold of winter sets in

All perfectly reasonable explanations.

H

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:27 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Some of us are blessed with gifted insight to go along with simple logic, I suppose.

Not that difficult Chrisisall


Too bad some of us were not blessed with modesty as well.

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:21 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
snicker

"if the flat earth were ... uniformly flat"
Oh, you mean like the ocean ?



The oceans surface would be curved even if the earth was not spherical. Gravitational anomalies caused by differences in density and thickness(mountains)of the earths crust cause an effect similar to the meniscus effect.

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:41 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:

All perfectly reasonable explanations.


Then I would have been cast out as the village blasphemer, for none of that s**t would have flown with me.

Evernaysaying Chrisisall

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