That's what governments are for- get in a man's way...what's so hard to understand here?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, April 10, 2008 21:15
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Quote:That's utter foolishness. Anyone with any sense at all at any time in history can tell that the Earth is round. See a ship sailing into the distance? It disappears. Why can't you see China from where you live? The Moon is round- that should have you at least suspecting that all bodies are. And it you go on a mountain, you can see points of geography not visible from the ground.
Originally posted by LightBringer:
This, of course, seems like an "Earth is Round" point for me. However, that's not a very good name for it, seeing as for thousands of years it was quite obvious, except to the gifted elite, that the Earth was flat and riding on a tortoise or a cosmic aardvark or some such.
You don't need to be a gorram scientist to figure that one out- sheesh!
Chrisisall, trapped in a world he never made
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Quote:This elitist statement depends upon the idiot factor of the masses. You obviously believe that the masses will believe whatever they are told; I believe that eventually truth wins out over ignorance.
Originally posted by LightBringer:
It doesn't matter whether the statement is true or not; but it may be that if enough people believe it, it will become true.
I did not vote for Unification.
Chrisisall, with a brownish coat
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"There's a place where "us and them" has to stop and become "we.""
And wouldn't that have been when the twin towers were attacked the first time ?
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I'm guessing you're repubican b/c what I see is the typical repubican double standard. It's OK for a repubican congress to waste tens of millions of dollars investigating the Clintons b/c somehow they are 'we', though Clinton, as president wasn't. But it's not OK for a Democratic Congress to even criticize a president b/c they are NOT 'we', though Bush, as president, is.
Care to straighten this out ?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That's utter foolishness. Anyone with any sense at all at any time in history can tell that the Earth is round.
I think that evidence supported that the earth was curved, like the surface of a ball, but I'd be hard pressed to say for certain from personal observation that its round. Yes its round...I learned that in school, I've seen pictures, but absent those two things...how would anyone know for sure.
H
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"I'd be hard pressed to say for certain from personal observation that its round. Yes its round...I learned that in school, I've seen pictures, but absent those two things...how would anyone know for sure."
Simple observation and a little logic ?
If it's flat on a clear day you can see forever, or if there is an edge you will be able to see it and get to it. The only way to have a horizon that you can never get to is by the earth being a globe.
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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."
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Originally posted by rue:
If it's flat on a clear day you can see forever, or if there is an edge you will be able to see it and get to it. The only way to have a horizon that you can never get to is by the earth being a globe.
You point would only be valid if the flat earth were small and uniformly flat.
You can't see forever because your view of thr horizon would ultimately be obstructed by distance, mountains, Rosanne Barr, etc. A good example is the great plains. Big, flat and great...but you can't stand in Missouri and see Colorado.
I also note that while the curve of the Earth's surface is obvious, especially to sailors, a curve does not necessarily translate into round.
At best an otherwise ignorant of the truth but observant person could observe a curved surface (like the surface of a mound). They might suppose its got on edge or that its round. And the moon to plain sight is round...but so is a coin when seen from a distance. Likewise the moon and the sun would apprear to move around the earth. Its not until one invents a telescope and some failry complex math that more distant stellar observations make it apparent the Earth is in motion along with the heavens.
I note for the record that when such observations might be a one-way ticket to the Inquisition...it tends to make radical scientific notions harder to accept regardless of the evidence.
H
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Quote:Just talk to anyone from another country & ask 'em where the flat part is, silly.
Originally posted by Hero:
I think that evidence supported that the earth was curved, like the surface of a ball, but I'd be hard pressed to say for certain from personal observation that its round.
If it's curved, it's logical to assume the curve continues, hence roundness until proved otherwise.
You think, sir, like a biped.
Chrisisall
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"if the flat earth were ... uniformly flat"
Oh, you mean like the ocean ?
"a curve does not necessarily translate into round"
Ah, but it does - by the fact that the horizon advances with every mile you advance. New and different horizons show up, even out there, on the ocean, which we all know (or I hope we all know) can't be 'mounded'. The only way to keep going over a hill out on the ocean is if the earth is indeed a globe.
In fact, it was the early sailors who originally figured out earth was round from just such observations - and some logic.
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Quote:The moon rotates and shows different faces constantly, hence, NOT a coin...hovever, the Sun circling the Earth is an entirely understandable (if wrong) concept.
Originally posted by Hero:
And the moon to plain sight is round...but so is a coin when seen from a distance. Likewise the moon and the sun would apprear to move around the earth.
Don't be denseisall
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What was this thread about again?
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