You wanna meet the REAL Rev. Wright ???
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Monday, March 31, 2008 01:30
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Quote:From which I demand a cut, since Fletch2’s Anglo-Norman ancestors oppressed my Irish ancestors.
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Fletch, sorry to hear about the oppression of your people by the Romans. Have you ever considered seeking reparations.
Quote:Basically what your looking for is a scapegoat. And you’re going about it all wrong. You see, blaming all the worlds problems on the majority never works. What you need to do is focus on the minorities - that’s when you can get into some real classic scapegoating. Take the Jews for instance, people have been very successful throughout the last thousand years really sticking it to the Jews for the wrong they were never responsible for or sometimes wrongs that never even happened. That‘s what you need to be doing - start small - instead of blaming the majority of the people in the US for wrongs they never committed, instead just focus on the Jews. It’s a proven track record. Trust me, it works.
Originally posted by piratejenny:
I'm an American and we are talking about America not Rome, your whole post was completely assine. I should have known from that post that your not american know very little about our history...it was pretty obvious from your post that your clueless.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
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-- Cicero
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Finn thats not something to brag about out loud. Irish people have unibrows. Remember darwin's theory irish are modern cromags. If you be cool will let ya play golf with us.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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The point of history is to learn from it, not to use it to excuse behavior and not to guilt trip people who have no responsibility for what their ancestors may, or may not do.
Amen.
Now teach that to a certain country-that-shall-not-be-named, which claims to be our ally but seems more a parasite playing on that guilt for all it's worth.
I don't think we'd tolerate any country but one committing outright espionage and sabotage, interfering directly and blatantly in our domestic political process, and on top of it demanding ever more foreign aid payout in addition to direct support both materially and otherwise, of their military.
It's stupid, is what it is, you don't see me holding a grudge against europeans cause they gave my sarcen ancestors so much hassle - cause, yanno, all the guys that did so are long since dead.
I wish more folk understood that, felt that way, cause a whole hell of a lot of our current "issues" globally are rooted in that exact same stupidity and grudge holding.
-F
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If anyone wants to meet the real real Rev. Wright, I found this, the most concise excerpt from his "God Damn America" sermon that gives the full context for his inflammatory words.
However, if y'all want to let Hannity and Colmes define reality for you, carry on, nothing to see here.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Well, we appear to have two different views of the past, each expressed by some people at different times, perhaps as a matter of convenience of argument.
One is this - you have to learn from the past or you may end up repeating it, like a grade in school.
The other is this - forget the past ! It's over !
Anyone care to resolve this apparent contradiction ?
Aside from that, I'd like to point out that today, STILL, doors open automatically for people with white skin and xy chromosomes that don't automatically open for others. Any efforts to address that aren't necessarily out of some effort to redeem the past, but to change the present.
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Quote:This is nonsense. No doors have ever opened automatically for me, that didn’t open automatically for anyone who stepped in front of them.
Originally posted by rue:
Aside from that, I'd like to point out that today, STILL, doors open automatically for people with white skin and xy chromosomes that don't automatically open for others. Any efforts to address that aren't necessarily out of some effort to redeem the past, but to change the present.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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*Just points, silently, to his sig-line*
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
If anyone wants to meet the real real Rev. Wright, I found this, the most concise excerpt from his "God Damn America" sermon that gives the full context for his inflammatory words.
However, if y'all want to let Hannity and Colmes define reality for you, carry on, nothing to see here.
HKCavalier
This bogus line of " full context " in reference to RJW's words is nothing but an attempt to defend the indefensible. There's nothing in the least which justifies or reconfigures his clear and intended meaning. A full examination of his speech reveals exactly what "god damn America' sounds like. His revisionist, demagogic, vitriol filled message is no less clear than w/ the "soundbites" FOX news plays( and thankfully so ). This clown isn't preaching the Gospel, he's delivering a political speech.
And the 2000 election wasn't stolen, by any rational and honest account. RJW is just a demagogue and a bald face liar.
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Well then, AURaptor,
We disagree. Thanks for taking the time to listen to the video.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Well then, AURaptor,
We disagree. Thanks for taking the time to listen to the video.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Problem is, the FULL CONTEXT only reinforces the origial description of J. Wright. It makes him less, not more, of a sypathetic figure.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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