Well, here comes a fatal blow...

POSTED BY: Novagrass
UPDATED: Sunday, November 3, 2002 23:38
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KALIMAC

Monday, October 21, 2002 2:12 PM

As others have stated, though, TiVo numbers will only be useful in showing FOX that it has a viewership so they can move it to a night when these viewers are home.

TiVo numbers will not help sell advertising (for obvious reasons) and therefore are useless for purposes of keeping a series in production.

But, yes, if the numbers are solid there and FOX acknowledges it, that may be enough to convince them to move it out of the death slot.

- JD Burton
Who doesn't expect Firefly to fare better than any of the other shows he loves that get prematurely canceled (Push, Nevada anyone?).

Keep Flying

PEAK

Monday, October 21, 2002 7:38 PM

According to MediaWeek the overnight was 3.4/6...

Link: http://www.mediaweek.com/mediaweek/columns/prog_insider.jsp

I think the biggest problem for Firefly is that noone seems to expect it to succeed. The concensus before even the show started was that the show would be cancelled quickly... It seems like some people doesn't want to watch the show because they think that it will dissappear soon.

FOX doesn't make it easier by not showing the original pilot/the timeslot/sports...

What I do see is that almost everyone who watches it on every message board i post/lurk in (slipstreambbs, trekbbs, quite a few buffy-forums, newsgroups) likes the show... The threads for Firefly in the Television without Pity-forums are really, really long...

But I do think that the negativity that preceeded the series is it's worst enemy...

//Peak

DARKANGELSLAYER

Monday, October 21, 2002 11:22 PM

You'd think Fox would've learned their lesson with Dark Angel...

Maybe they can move FF to Mondays, cuz a lot of critics don't expect girls club to last that long.

RADWORLD

Monday, October 21, 2002 11:25 PM

Admitedly...I didn't start watching because I figured I would get crushed when it got canceled. See SPACE:Above and Beyod and I think I am the only person who still has the guts to wear his SeaQuest DSV baseball hat. But on a good friends rec...I checked it out and much to my dismay...I loved it. Good plot possibilites and and character dev. So of course it means its doomed. I will send my meaningless letter and hope but I'm sure Fox will just put it with all my past letters.

SAINTOFCHEESE

Monday, October 21, 2002 11:31 PM

Don't lose hope! Write tons of letters, yes. It can't hurt, but don't lose hope. Keep watching, keep telling other people how great it is, and try not to bring up to much negative stuff . It WILL survive. If/when it gets canceled, we can all cry.. let's not worry too much til then.

~*Saint of Cheese*~

DELVO

Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:35 AM

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Maybe they can move FF to Mondays, cuz a lot of critics don't expect girls club to last that long.

Not until the end of NFL football. Notice that all shows other than Monday Night Football that are on at that time are "girl shows", and this is either more of a guy show or neutral at most. Nobody wants to even bother trying to compete with football for the male audience. If they want to get it out of the "death slot" because of the "death" part, they won't move it to the "even more certain death slot".

JERRY

Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:39 AM

I think it's unreasonable to expect Fox to pick up the show for a full season with the ratings it's getting. At best, I'd hope they would leave it on the air for a few more weeks to see if it makes any progress. It's a pity, because I think it's a terrific show. I wish the network had been able to come up with some promos that actually conveyed a sense of what the show was all about. I would have tried to have a campaign of ads that each focused on one of the characters, to allow people to develop a bit of a hook into the story. Then again, I also would have shown the pilot and not reordered the episodes.

QUANTUMFLUX

Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:45 AM

Football? Firefly is good, but it can't compete with 7th Heaven. I don't like that show but I hear that a lot of other people do. Anyway, I think the show will last.

C'mon! Joss Whedon created it. Tell me one thing that he has written that was not good. I can't think of anything.

QFlux

KALIMAC

Saturday, October 26, 2002 4:15 PM

Um, how about Alien: Resurrection, Waterworld, and even Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

{ Interesting side note: I loved all the above movies, but most people really don't. }

Keep Flying

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kalimac:
Um, how about Alien: Resurrection, Waterworld, and even Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

{ Interesting side note: I loved all the above movies, but most people really don't. }

Keep Flying

Hey, Alien and Buffy, very much not Whedon's fault. The original scripts kicked ass, but he lost control of the scripts, and they were rewriten. I hear the he cried when he saw both of those movies for the first time.

I don't know what Waterworld's excuse.
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