The Riddick movies, what did ya think of Deisel's 'Verse?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Sunday, March 16, 2008 00:46
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MSB

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:51 AM

Well I loved them!!!

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

SAFEAT2ND

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:10 AM

Ever the promoter of alternate sci-fi, eh Chris?

I really like Pitch Black and Chronicles I didn't like at first, probably because it wasn't so much an extension of PB.

BUT, once I got over that preconceived notion, I found it actually painted a broader, richer picture.

Nothing wrong with Greek tragedy meets sci-fi. I like that concept a lot. Check out Oh Brother Where Art Thou. Not so much sci fi but a re-telling of the Homer's Odyssey (sp?).

Dark Fury is what I had hoped Joss would have done for Firefly Serenity bridging...

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And I know that I said
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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:18 AM

Some people here are highly opposed to the dual suns of Pitch Black. I liked all of the films, and agree they were greatly underrated, particularly Pitch Black. Rahdan Mitchell and Alexis Davalos have progressed nicely.

SPACEANJL

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:20 AM

I really liked Pitch Black, because it was a reasonably small budget film that came in under the radar. The money went where it needed to go, on the effects. And the script made sure that not all the characters were even likable, far more realistic than the line-up of pretty people you usually get.

Plus, Vin Diesel. On the guilty pleasures list, alongside Jayne, and Jason Statham...

The Chronicles was in the bad-enough-to find-cult-greatness category. It blatantly pinched from Dune, and Giger's artwork, and certain Biblical themes, but it had pretensions to the epic which made it fabulously bonkers. I may have to watch it again later. (Yes, I own it. But I can't find my copy of Pitch Black.)

edit: somewhere in the BSR, there is actually a crossover with FF/Riddick. It wasn't bad, called something like Under a Blue Sun? (I think)

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:37 PM

Pitch Black was a good cult film. It had the cultish feel down nicely, with interesting artistic touches related to the camera filters representing the the binary star system this planet is a part of. Riddick projected a great lean-mean air, willing to manupliate, kill, or get along with others all in an effort to survive. I enjoy how he was protrayed as the "genius savage". Reminds me of Braveheart.

Looking at it as a cult film, I give it higher than average marks. I must, however, knock it down a peg due to it's unique logical problem: if the creatures of this planet had fed on everything that lived there (Think about the boneyards the characters discovered) what exactly are they eating now? Each other? It's the same logic placed upon alien dominated worlds (alien franchise), once xenamorphs control a planet, they would eventually have to die off due to a lack of prey.

The Chronicles film was overblown. I had been expecting a more gritty firefly-like world but ended up with a high society dune-like universe. Here's a youtube Dune clip for artistic reference:

For me, the world of chronicles didn't jive with the rusty-metal look of pitch black. Not that I don't like a high society feel in my sci-fi...people that know me know I'm a dune universe expert....but I guess I just wanted to see more grit and less gold for riddick.

Hey, as a footnote, did anyone here play the riddick video game Escape from Butchers Bay? I understand it details how he broke out of prison prior to his re-capture transport in PB. I'm curious to know if the game went with the "grit" look of PB or if it was made more like chronicles.

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FREDGIBLET

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:59 PM

I haven't played but I have it and I've heard about it, most of the reviews I've seen say that it's much better than the movie. That probably means that it's more like Pitch Black then Chronicles.

IRISHWASH

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:56 PM

pitch black, easily one of my top 5 fav films, love the camera work, love the story line, radha mitchell and vin diesel's chemistry was brilliant as was cole hauser as the dope takin bounty hunter, wat a brilliant film for such a small budget.ok am ranting.
dark fury, excellant link piece
chronicles, thought at first it was to lavish to over done, but it is the opposite of pitch black in that way an made it stand alone, excellant visuals again, clunky script i thought but idea was spot.not as good as pitch black but better than most drivel i've seen lately.
cloverfield for example

just my oppinion

irishwash

STORMWIND

Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:02 AM

I love Pitch Black, one of my all time favs, along with Serenity. (Note to self: Do not say the name of the venue simply for appluase). I've visted the set to! Ate lunch on top of the ship they escaped in. Place called Coober Pedy in the middle of nowhere in outback Australia. Riddick is a helluva character.
Haven't seen Dark Fury, but apparently it is more of a mix between the two.
I've played Escape from Butcher Bay and it is very Pitch Black, but Riddick uses guns!
Chronicles, I like, but only bits. I wish they'd set the whole movie around Riddick going to Crematoria and escaping with Jack/Kiera. It was easy the best part.
Yeah I was reading that crossover in the BSR but I can't remember what happened to it. It was good.
Actually borrowing from that 'Verse (I'm calling it a tribute, which is a fancy word for stealing) in my own fic at the moment. Mal gets himself sent to a Bounty Slam to rescue a friend. The fic is a called "A New 'Verse" coming soon to a Blue Sun Room near you!

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IMNOTHERE

Friday, March 14, 2008 8:39 PM

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Originally posted by Stormwind:
Chronicles, I like, but only bits. I wish they'd set the whole movie around Riddick going to Crematoria and escaping with Jack/Kiera. It was easy the best part.

I think my only beef with Pitch Black was the insultingly obvious nature of Jack's "little secret". If you're gonna try that twist

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Then either cast a girl who can actually pass as a boy - or a boy who can pass as a girl.

The ending was really refreshing - I was all prepared for the sappy ending which Hollywood conventions would suggest:

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i.e. Riddick would have given his life (probably along with Imam) to save Jack and the female lead... anti-heroes are rarely allowed to survive their redemption.

...and anything which turns that on end gets my vote.

Problem with "Chronicles" was that I'd always envisioned the Pitch Black 'verse as a fairly "realistic" gritty frontier set-up (with hindsight, pretty Firelfy-esque) rather than the gothic Dune/Lexx/verging on Flash Gordon one that was revealed.

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I wish they'd set the whole movie around Riddick going to Crematoria and escaping with Jack/Kiera. It was easy the best part.

Possibly - but OTOH, taken on its own, it might have felt like a re-tread of Pitch Black. Also, without the goth/fantasy wrapper one might start to quibble about the existence of a breathable atmosphere (and lack of really, really strong winds around sunrise/sunset) on such a planet.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:20 PM

I'm a big Richard Riddick fan.

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