Criminally Careless Use of Science, Without Knowledge

POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 15:19
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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:53 AM

... or

"You effing Science people think you're so effing smart"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080309/ap_on_re_us/pharmawater_i

http://www.lhla.org/breaking-news/Pill-polluted-water.pdf

Personally, I find this a million times more offensive than my personal choice to smoke and the idea that you might have to breath it in when you're going to the bar to poison your livers. Especially since, unlike beer, EVERYBODY needs to drink water.

At least I know what the effects are when I choose to light up. And you people can easily avoid my secondhand smoke if you so choose because you can see and smell it.

As a healthy young male, the missing half of my sperm count wanted me to thank you all personally for that extra estrogen I'm taking in from your unabsorbed birth control pills.

I'm sure pedophiles the world round are happier than kids in Disneyland too, what with the 8 year olds running around with boobs and all....

"And while researchers do not yet understand the exact risks from decades of persistent exposure to random combinations of low levels of pharmaceuticals, recent studies — which have gone virtually unnoticed by the general public — have found alarming effects on human cells and wildlife."

"Officials in Philadelphia said testing there discovered 56 pharmaceuticals or byproducts in treated drinking water, including medicines for pain, infection, high cholesterol, asthma, epilepsy, mental illness and heart problems. Sixty-three pharmaceuticals or byproducts were found in the city's watersheds."

"Anti-epileptic and anti-anxiety medications were detected in a portion of the treated drinking water for 18.5 million people in Southern California."

"A sex hormone was detected in San Francisco's drinking water."

"The federal government doesn't require any testing and hasn't set safety limits for drugs in water."

"Arlington, Texas, acknowledged that traces of a pharmaceutical were detected in its drinking water but cited post-9/11 security concerns in refusing to identify the drug."

"Rural consumers who draw water from their own wells aren't in the clear either, experts say."

"Even users of bottled water and home filtration systems don't necessarily avoid exposure. Bottlers, some of which simply repackage tap water, do not typically treat or test for pharmaceuticals, according to the industry's main trade group. The same goes for the makers of home filtration systems."

"Perhaps it's because Americans have been taking drugs — and flushing them unmetabolized or unused — in growing amounts. Over the past five years, the number of U.S. prescriptions rose 12 percent to a record 3.7 billion, while nonprescription drug purchases held steady around 3.3 billion, according to IMS Health and The Nielsen Co."

"There's evidence that adding chlorine, a common process in conventional drinking water treatment plants, makes some pharmaceuticals more toxic."

"Based on what we now know, I would say we find there's little or no risk from pharmaceuticals in the environment to human health," said microbiologist Thomas White, a consultant for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America."

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

HERO

Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Personally, I find this a million times more offensive than my personal choice to smoke and the idea that you might have to breath it in when you're going to the bar to poison your livers. Especially since, unlike beer, EVERYBODY needs to drink water.

My water tastes fine...but if you are really concerned, I suggest Diet Dr. Pepper (tastes like Regular Dr. Pepper...just no calories).

Oh, you might like this:

http://www.ameribev.org/industry-issues/healthy-balanced-diet/beverage
-ingredients/soft-drink-ingredients/index.aspx

H

TANKOBITE

Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:48 PM

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"A sex hormone was detected in San Francisco's drinking water."

So that explains it! I always wondering why San Francisco was so "unique"!

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SERGEANTX

Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:23 PM

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Officials in Philadelphia said testing there discovered 56 pharmaceuticals or byproducts in treated drinking water, including medicines for pain, infection, high cholesterol, asthma, epilepsy, mental illness and heart problems. Sixty-three pharmaceuticals or byproducts were found in the city's watersheds.

Bonus! Think of all the money we're saving. Some of those drugs are expensive.

SergeantX

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:54 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Personally, I find this a million times more offensive than my personal choice to smoke and the idea that you might have to breath it in when you're going to the bar to poison your livers. Especially since, unlike beer, EVERYBODY needs to drink water.

My water tastes fine...but if you are really concerned, I suggest Diet Dr. Pepper (tastes like Regular Dr. Pepper...just no calories).

Oh, you might like this:

http://www.ameribev.org/industry-issues/healthy-balanced-diet/beverage
-ingredients/soft-drink-ingredients/index.aspx

H

Ask the women around here how many flavored "Flintstones" birth control pills they've ingested over the years. Parts per million we're talking about I'm sure. It's still more than we were ingesting "second-hand" 100 years ago.

After reading your link, I'd be almost more inclined to tell people to drink diet pop for sustanance. Sadly though, man-made flavors can mean anything from a benign cherry-flavored additive to an MKULTRA PN conspiracy theory which worked so subtely that you wouldn't even be aware of the possiblity of such a thing until right this second when you're reading because the idea would have otherwise never crossed your mind.

Something to think about.... or not....

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:25 PM

6ix- Once again you're putting the blame squarely where it doesn't belong (scientists) just to protect your personal sacred cow (corporations).

So, since I now know you're an anti-science anarchist, OOC how would pro-corporate anarchism obviate this problem, exactly? I mean, isn't it those wonderful corporations who took those scientific discoveries like antibiotics and anti-convulsants and Viagra and birth-control pills and put them into full production to "give people what they want"?

I'll bet, when we discover that the nanoparticles discovered by scientists and so gleefully and precipitously adopted by industry have invaded our neurons, you'll be there with a pitchfork and stave, totally ignoring corporate/ capitalist responsibility.

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FREDGIBLET

Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:15 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
6ix- Once again you're putting the blame squarely where it doesn't belong (scientists)

I think he's physically incapable of looking at any problem without immediately thinking "how can I blame science for this?".

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:29 PM

What he really wants to do is somehow blame the anti-smoking faction. But since he can't, I guess blaming science is the next best thing.

Why don't those pesky resarch scientists just bury their heads in the sand?

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FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:07 PM

Look on the bright side - you're prolly getting extra nicotene from the residue of all those patches Big Pharma is selling to get their foot in the door of our market.

I don't get where on earth you could ever take Jack as pro-corporate, Siggy - he hates Big Pharma as much as I do, and in case you didn't notice, that's where much of the blame lies.

You assholes whinge about us poisoning your air, and yet somehow it's not ok for us to whinge about y'all poisoning our water ?

Come on now, quid pro quo - for all the crap nonsmokers have foisted on us, much of it straight out-and-out bullshit, I think we gotta right to bust some chops here.

Of course, the irony is that this will no doubt put $$$ in the hands of the bottled water industry, which is not only just lightly filtered tap water for the most part, but also facing it's own set of taxes right on schedule, ain't that a bitch, eh ?

Why don't those pesky research scientists start standing up to Big Pharma instead of takin the money to nod, smile and look the other way ?

How bout that, yes ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:18 PM

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Why don't those pesky research scientists start standing up to Big Pharma instead of takin the money to nod, smile and look the other way ?

That's where all the data came from, didn't it? Pesky researchers.

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