Dubbed or subtitled? Your preference?
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UPDATED: Friday, March 14, 2008 03:41
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Quote:So true. Have you read the threads about Firefly dubbage in French? It's amazing what changes. And I've heard of odd things in Firefly subtitles as well - even English to English subtitles!
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Inaccurate translations will always be a potential problem even with subtitles.
Anyway, your raise a good point that the language matters. French intonations I can pick up, but Mandarin not so much. In Chinese films I get more meaning from watching the actor's face than from their voice, and I can only watch their face if my eyes aren't constantly darting to the subtitles. And again, there's that costume/scenery thing. I hate missing pretty visuals.
Really, if a film's good enough to be worth it, I like watching twice. Once with subtitles, once dubbed.
DLV - I haven't seen Day Watch yet. I've heard it's even better than Night Watch. You think?
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I definitely prefer subtitles with foreign films. For all the reasons mentioned above (accuarce, nuance of performance, ect.) Pan's Labyrinth and Infernal Affairs are films I've watched recently with subs.
Occasionally, I will watch a dubbed version, but only under certain circumstances. For a drama, it's subs all the way. However, with heavily action-oriented films or anime, I somtimes prefer the dub. Makes it easier to follow what's happening on-screen, and you're really not loosing much in terms of performance, since nuanced acting is rarely of high importance in those films.
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
I haven't seen Day Watch yet. I've heard it's even better than Night Watch. You think?
Nightwatch was the first of the three released here and the first one I saw, so I think I liked it a little more than Day Watch simply because it was my introduction into this strange story.
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Subtitles, every time, with two notable exceptions: Wing Chun & Magnificent Warriors- the original language versions didn't have Michelle Yeoh's voice in them anyway, and were fully dubbed as they were shot without sound, so the dubs actually work better in those instances for me.
I like hearing the real inflections of the actor's voices- I feel the performances are undercut with dubbing.
Technical Chrisisall
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Quote:I don’t really disagree with you. I prefer an authentic feel when I watch a movie, so much so that the bad Russian accents in Red October really ruined the film for me. Even the English spoken in Gladiator got on my nerves a little, which is why I really liked Gibson’s two movies that he did in the supposedly authentic languages, “Passion of the Christ,” and “Apocalypto.”
Originally posted by Blackadder7:
I rather use it as an opportunity to espouse the virtues of subtitled media as an art
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Quote:I draw the exceptions with kung fu movies and Godzilla movies. God, just intended these movies to be dubbed.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Subtitles, every time, with two notable exceptions: Wing Chun & Magnificent Warriors- the original language versions didn't have Michelle Yeoh's voice in them anyway, and were fully dubbed as they were shot without sound, so the dubs actually work better in those instances for me.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I prefer subtitles. Just because I don't know what someone is saying doesn't mean I can't hear the emotion in actors' words. It just sounds and looks weird when it's dubbed.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I draw the exceptions with kung fu movies and Godzilla movies. God, just intended these movies to be dubbed.
Seconded!
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Haven't seen Day Watch yet, either, but have all the books. Third one is Twilight Watch, and there's some talk that the third film will be in English, which may actually detract from it. Mind you, what they've done to the storyline in the films is so off-base, it may not.
The books are interesting in themselves, because there is a whole different mythology and assumption underpinning them. Almost reads like classic western fantasy-horror, but with a twist. I find books that play with your assumptions and perceptions a lot of fun to read (C J Cherryh 'Foreigner' sequence etc) and that's also a reason I like some Anime. Though, on the dub/sub front, you still know that you are missing nuances, because even if you have the language, you don't have the cultural wiring.
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Quote:"My.. Mantis Fist will beat.. your Godzilla Claw!" just doesn't seem the same in the original language....
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I draw the exceptions with kung fu movies and Godzilla movies. God, just intended these movies to be dubbed.
Cheese-filled Chrisisall
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