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Good Sci Fi

POSTED BY: est120
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 08:34
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Friday, April 30, 2004 3:18 PM

I'm a fan of most SF, but the ones I keep coming back to are:

Star Trek: (What can I say, I like being an optimist about human nature. Also, as a writer, I'm fascinated by how Roddenberry's social allegory spiralled out into a "living, breathing" universe [and somewhat dismayed that we only ever get to see fractions of it].)

Star Wars: (My "first love." Even as the prequels' plunging quality begins to erode my fandom, the awe-inspiring epic adventure of the NJO arc reaffirms it. Doro'ik vong pratte!)

Stargate SG-1: (Oh, how I wish Global would stop acting like a dog in a manger and let others air S6 onward. )

Farscape: (SF writers tend to fall into two categories. When we start out, we're told that "we can't write aliens," no matter how hard we try, 'cause we're humans, and all humans think the same, and we can't think like aliens. And even if we could, no one would care about the aliens, 'cause they're not like us. Some writers accept this, and go on to write brilliant human-based SF (Firefly). Others use aliens as dramatic or narrative devices, like funhouse mirrors of human characteristics (Star Trek). Others take this as a direct challenge. They try to outdo each other with the most out-there, mind-blowing weirdness they can come up with. Usually, these writers are restricted to SF magazines and novels. Farscape marks the first time they --we've really hit television. I couldn't care less about John & Aeryn; I want to see Rygel oust his brother and reclaim his throne, and Pilot and Moya fulfilling their dream of pure exploration.)

Transformers: (It may be billed as a kids' show, but there's enough here to fill libraries of adult, "hard" SF, if only anyone tried. Machines with souls, asexual beings who have genders and fall in love, A race of pacifists forced to become warriors to defeat warriors, machines being forced to adapt beyond their programming, a cybernetic God and a technological Devil, an avowed atheist who inherits his people's most sacred religious artifact, and tries to understand what it means. . .)

Roswell Conspiracies: (None of you have probably heard of this little-known cartoon from a few years back, but it's awesome. It runs like a mix of Buffy meets X-Files in the Men in Black universe, with just a little M.A.S.K. thrown in. --And the male lead looks like an animated David Boreanaz, complete with "hair that goes straight up." )

Also the classics:
The Day The Earth Stood Still (if ever a movie called out for a modern update. . .)
I, Robot (by way of Bicentennial Man, currently. Reserving judgement on the upcoming version.)

If text counts, I'm a fan of Flowers for Algernon (by [I think ]) Arthur C. Clark), and Asimov's The Star is the basis for the alien equivalent of "pool" in my SF writing (if I ever get back into it from doing fantasy). Also, there's a freaky alien/human love story called Bloodchild, but I'll be frelled if I can remember what the author's name was, and the book with it is in another city.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Time to show my age again

TV
Science Fiction Theatre (Not MST3K. Was on in the '50s)
Twilight Zone (Original Rod Serling version)
Outer Limits




The original Outer Limits or the '90's version? I actually thought many of the new Outer Limits episodes were quite good. I wish they were being released in order instead by theme.

Trekkie,Browncoat,Leaper,MSTie

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Friday, April 30, 2004 3:36 PM

*Strarship Troopers (hey, if you don't take it seriously you'll like it)
*Bad Taste
*Event Horizont
*The Last Crusade
*Enemy Mine
*Dreamcacher (JUST KIDDING! It did no justice to the book)
*I Am Legend
*Soylent Green
*Jason X
*Mad Max-films(not sure if you count them to scifi)

There's a lot of other scifi-films of various quality that I've watched but I really can't remember them (except The Peternator, but I don't think that it counts as scifi) right now.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 3:55 PM

(edited to make me sound like less of a conceited jackass)

The entire Matrix trilogy.
I think a lot of the people who hated the last movie didn't get the point. It was really out there.

I don't know if we're counting books, but there's a novel by Alfred Bester called Stars My Destination. Pure genius. Nobody's made it a movie yet, as far as I can tell.



"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 4:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Flowers for Algernon (by [I think ]) Arthur C. Clark)



Daniel Keyes wrote Flowers for Algernon. I don't know if he wrote the screenplay for "Charley" the movie adaptation.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 4:01 PM

Best sci fi? Here we go:

Movies:

- The Day the Earth Stood Still
- Forbidden Planet
- Aliens
- The Terminator
- Star Wars

Television

- Firefly
- Stargate SG1
- Babylon 5
- Outer Limits (original)
- Twilight Zone (original)

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 4:18 PM

movies
time bandits
Battle beyond the stars
the last starfighter
the adventures of buckaroo banzai
12 monkeys
ice pirates
flight of the navigator
Yor the hunter from the future
Logan's run

tv
misfits of science
buffy
firefly

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Friday, April 30, 2004 4:30 PM

I thought the entire Matrix trilogy was pretty good too. I felt that for the last movie the writers got kind of backed into a corner because everyone had their own ideas about what was going to happen and what they ended up writing was probably different from what 99.9% of the viewers thought so people were disappointed. In the end, it seemed more that the expectations were too high and there was no way the story was going to please most people. That being said, the way the story ends is not bad, it just is not being accepted (in my opinion).

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Friday, April 30, 2004 6:43 PM

I think the end of the Matrix trilogy was perfect (woulda' mentioned it in my post, but my brain got lost in Roswell ).

Morpheus' original plan was to destroy the Matrix completely, which would either kill everyone (not already "unplugged"), or unplug everyone. If he'd succeeded, humanity would be free of the Matrix, but something like three quarters of the "survivors" wouldn't last a year in the real world. There's no food, no provisions to grow it, limited shelter, people from every nation on Earth suddenly being cut adrift in a techno wasteland that the Zionites couldn't hope to police effectively.

Remember what Morpheus said in the first one; most of the adults they unplug don't make it; their brains are addicted to the Matrix.

Morpheus thought it was worth it to save humanity.

Neo's epiphany was that the Matrix wasn't a deathtrap; it was a chrysalis. Neo wasn't the One, he was just the First.

Neo rebooted the Matrix after deleting the virus (Smith, the rogue agent). Since Smith had infected all the other Agents, Neo deleted their programs when he killed Smith (I'm guessing he deleted the whole "folder," so to speak). The non-Agent programs, like the Oracle, the Architect, and Seraph (who I'd been hoping would turn out to be a "rebel" Agent ) must've been restored manually by Neo.

Now, the surviving Zionites have time to unplug people properly, with years of careful training and counselling. With the Agents gone, the resistance can come and go as they please.

They can finally wake up from that dream they're all having.

Don't make faces.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 6:50 PM

Titain AE the story was good what sucked was the animation. most of it was so halfa$$edly done.


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