Sarah Conner Intro Spiel Falsehood?

POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Friday, March 14, 2008 21:53
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CALHOUN

Monday, March 10, 2008 3:10 AM

At the start of each episode Sarah gives the spiel and I take issue with the part that says "Skynet - A computer system designed to destroy the world. It has sent machines back through time. Some to kill him, one to protect him."

Didn't future John take over the time machine facility and send his own terminator back to protect him.

Why would Skynet send robots back to kill him but then send one back to protect him? kinda defeats the purpose..

I think its probably just a problem with the wording though i'm surprised it didnt get picked up on.

Comments?

CALHOUN

Monday, March 10, 2008 7:19 AM

I am alone..

STRANGEBIRD

Monday, March 10, 2008 7:27 AM

No everyone else is just very sleepy.

I just think it was a case of bad writing and nobody paying attention.

The shows not bad though. I kinda like it. And I love Summer as Cameron.

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CALHOUN

Monday, March 10, 2008 9:39 AM

Sleepy?

Time enough for sleep when you're dead.

STRANGEBIRD

Monday, March 10, 2008 9:50 AM

That there is my morbid friend. That there is.

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ASARIAN

Monday, March 10, 2008 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:

At the start of each episode Sarah gives the spiel and I take issue with the part that says "Skynet - A computer system designed to destroy the world. It has sent machines back through time. Some to kill him, one to protect him."

Didn't future John take over the time machine facility and send his own terminator back to protect him.

Why would Skynet send robots back to kill him but then send one back to protect him? kinda defeats the purpose..

I think its probably just a problem with the wording though i'm surprised it didnt get picked up on.

Oh, I picked up on it alright. It's just that there's so much else wrong with the show, it kinda became insignificant. But yes, "Skynet - A computer system designed to destroy the world. It has sent machines back through time. Some to kill him, one to protect him." shows that practically no one over there seems to care even remotely about getting things right.

First off, SkyNet wasn't designed to destroy the world. Wikipedia has it right:

"Skynet was first built as a Global Digital Defense Network, given command over all computerized military hardware and systems, including the B-2 Stealth Bomber fleet and America's entire nuclear weapons arsenal. The strategy behind Skynet's creation was to remove the possibility of human error and slowness of reaction time to guarantee fast, efficient response to enemy attack."

The Skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn, at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. eastern time, August 29. In a panic, humans try to pull the plug. SkyNet fights back by launching its missiles against the targets in Russia. Skynet knows that Russia will have to retaliate, thus eliminating its enemies back home.

That's the real story. When Skynet began to lose the war, they sent a Terminator Series T-800 back in time to kill Sarah Conner. When that mission failed, they sent another Terminator, to strike at John when he's still a child (T1 + T2). Never, at any time, did Skynet itself send "Some to kill him, one to protect him." That's just utter bull.

It's really incredibly sad they can't be bothered to even get the very basics of their own show right.

@strangebird: Sleepiness is weakness of character, ask anyone. :)

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CALHOUN

Monday, March 10, 2008 11:01 AM

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asarian wrote:
Monday, March 10, 2008 00:37

That's the real story. When Skynet began to lose the war, they sent a Terminator Series T-800 back in time to kill Sarah Conner. When that mission failed, they sent another Terminator, to strike at John when he's still a child (T1 + T2). Never, at any time, did Skynet itself send "Some to kill him, one to protect him." That's just utter bull.

They? Who is they? I thought that Skynet sent the terminators back to kill Sarah in order to eliminate John who was a proverbial thorn in its butt? Then the resistance took the time facility and sent back its own operative(Reese) to protect Sarah and then later the resistance sent back a modified T800 to protect John from another terminator Skynet sent to kill John.

Am I wrong in my recollection/Interpretation of events?

ASARIAN

Monday, March 10, 2008 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:

Quote:
asarian wrote:

That's the real story. When Skynet began to lose the war, they sent a Terminator Series T-800 back in time to kill Sarah Conner. When that mission failed, they sent another Terminator, to strike at John when he's still a child (T1 + T2). Never, at any time, did Skynet itself send "Some to kill him, one to protect him." That's just utter bull.

They? Who is they? I thought that Skynet sent the terminators back to kill Sarah in order to eliminate John who was a proverbial thorn in its butt? Then the resistance took the time facility and sent back its own operative(Reese) to protect Sarah and then later the resistance sent back a modified T800 to protect John from another terminator Skynet sent to kill John.

Am I wrong in my recollection/Interpretation of events?

'They' being SkyNet, yes. It isn't specified anywhere, that I know of, that the resistance actually took over the time machine plant; all we hear is: "Once again, the resistance has managed to send a protector back to attempt to save John and his mother Sarah."

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KAYLEEBIRD

Monday, March 10, 2008 11:27 AM

It's really weird, this show. It falls into Paradoxs'.

SkyNet was created, and it got up to the point were SkyNet made the decision to send a Terminator to kill Sarah Connor. So John Connor sent back Reese, who was infact his father to protect his mother, who then had John... It's a paradox.

HOW did John get there in the first place when Reese, who was John's biological father get to the period of time where Sarah was, and impregnate her so there was John Connor.

How did it get to John Connor when John Connor ordered his own father to go back in time? Reese would have had to have been there BEFORE, to impregnate her, but then, we would have seen Reese in the movie.

Now, it's really strange. But otherwise, it's okay. Go Summer!

CALHOUN

Monday, March 10, 2008 12:23 PM

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asarian wrote:
Monday, March 10, 2008 01:08

It isn't specified anywhere, that I know of, that the resistance actually took over the time machine plant

I haven't watched T1 in a long time but I have a vague recollection of Kyle Reese saying something about them taking over the time machine.

I could be wrong, as happens occasionally :)

Need to rewatch T1.

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