1985 film Firefly fans should check out.

Silverado, The Outlaw Josey Wales, and Tombstone are all quality flicks but I would not say they are classics. I know there are a lot of John Wayne critics on this site but he was in some the best movies/westerns ever made: Rio Bravo, The Sons of Katie Elder, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Red River just to name a few. And The Searchers and Stagecoach are two of the best movies of all time IMO. Also, if you are looking for a particular western that may have influenced Joss more than any other I would say it would have to be Stagecoach. The themes are very similar to me.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Not what I would call the greatest western of all time, but if it's Firefly-like Westerns you're looking for, I got one.

"Two Mules for Sister Sara"

Now. After you fellas pick yourselves up from falling on the floor laughing, here's some food for thought:

Whore who pretends to be a righteous upstanding nun played by the lovely and fiesty Shirley MacLaine.

Nefarious-type gun slinger with a mind for larceny and an eye for a pretty face, played by none other than the man himself, Clint Eastwood.

Big bad man - French, not Mexican for a change - bent on terrorizing an entire countryside.

Mexican Rebels bent on saving countryside from the big bad Frenchie.

Gunfire, horses, theivery, lust, and do-gooding topped off with really bad whiskey. Doesn't get any more Firefly than that.

I once watched "Rio Bravo" very late at night with my father and that movie will forever remain in my heart as my all-time favorite western.

As for Tombstone, I have only one thing to say -
Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday, "I'm your huckleberry."

hoo-SHA

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Spot on Channain!!! I am right there with ya!

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Originally posted by justme:
All this talk got me to thinking of one of my favorite movies and a RPG I usta' play.
The movie is "Quigley Down Under" with Tom Selleck. Quirky humor, thrillin' heroics, Alliance troops (the Redcoats), defending the oppressed, alien world (1850's Australia), prostitutes - all the important Firefly stuff. Mathew Quigley comes across as a kind of cross between Jayne and Mal - Jayne's size and skills, Mal's sense of humor and morals.

The RPG is Space:1889. I can easily see adding the Ethership Serenity to that (if I ever get a chance to play again)

Have to agree with all about Unforgiven and Silverado.

JustMe

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"Quigley Down Under" is a pretty good movie too, Alan Rickman as an ebil, yes I said ebil, ranch owner just made me grin a lot. Although the whole time I was waiting for him to say,"Because a spoon hurts more."

Space: 1889 is also a very cool game, never got as much publicity as it should but I ran it a while back and a good time was had by all, even if the Jack the Ripper Goes to Mars bit I ran sorta creepified everyone. But that was the point.

And for y'all that liked "Tombstone" (the flick) too, well in Tombstone (the town) the old Central Hotel is still up and running but they re-named it Big Nose Kate's (for Doc's girlfriend) and if that isn't just cool enough if you order one of their 40 oz. steaks the first draft is a nickle. The Birdcage Theatre is still there too, but it's a museum now. Oh well.

I happen to live in Cochise County, Arizona so I get me a 40 oz. steak and nickle draft pretty regularlike.

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Originally posted by Channain:
... As for Tombstone, I have only one thing to say -
Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday, "I'm your huckleberry."

hoo-SHA

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There are so many quotable Doc lines from "Tombstone" could go on all day. But I won't.

For my part I think that's the best performance Val Kilmer ever did.

And Michael Bien as Johnny Ringo, if his "Hell Follow With Me" speechifying, complete with crazy eyes and psychotic grin doesn't get ya, well then nothing will.

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Originally posted by DragonFlyDirector:
Hummm, have you noticed that really good westerns have a tendacy to be 'based', either in part or fully, on Kurosawa's "Shichinin no Samurai" {The Magnificent Seven}?

If you haven't see it - WOW, you need to!

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Indeed. Great movie. There's also plenty of movies based on "Yojimbo" and "Sanjuro" too (most notably "A Fistful of Dollars".

Actually though, the influence goes both ways. Kurosawa's samurai films was influenced greatly by earlier Westerns, and he in turn greatly influenced later Westerns.

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