Quick! Everbody go out and start your cars,,,
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I’m not against people who desire a clean and habitable planet for humans. I’m against people who call it apocalyptic hysteria to promote a corporate agenda.
Seems we could find some ground in the middle, were we to try.
-F
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Auraptor, you clearly have done ZERO research into the topic. The Polar ice sheets are in serious decline as are most bodies of glacial ice, wildfires have become far more frequent in both California and Australia(where I had actually stated). In fact you really brought no evidence to the table. Here I'll give you a site with pretty pictures so you can see
Specifically the one with the ESA satellite imagery
Oh and about those polar bears
http://www.nature.com/news/2007/071123/full/news.2007.282.html
Finn but what if you are wrong, and could you explain the agenda. I ams sure that the middle class scientists who spend months a year in the polar regions studying ice would love to know where the monetary gain is. In fact the only ones who have anything to gain by global warming is those who advocate against it. Seriously if you believed the way I do wouldn't you be a bit upset that other people were saying that their right to an SUV is more important than your right to bring your children and grandchildren into a stable environment?
When there are no heroes where will we turn?
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Quote:See, I'm tired of this black & white, all-or-nothing mentality the media plays up on.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’m not against people who desire a clean and habitable planet for humans. I’m against apocalyptic hysteria to promote an agenda.
Like either there's global warming, or there isn't. Either it's man-made, or it isn't.
Either it will kill us all, or we're all totally safe.
Chrisisall
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Quote:What if I’m wrong about what? The end of the world? As I said, it hasn’t ended anytime in the last 2000 years of people claiming it’s going to end. I’m not that feeble-minded to be terrified into believing in your point of view, because you say we’re all going to die if I don’t. Find a more intelligent perspective, and I’ll probably be more receptive to it.
Originally posted by avengingwatcher:
Finn but what if you are wrong,
And all those scientists in the North Pole know exactly where the money is, they wouldn’t be there if they didn’t.
Quote:Well I think you need to understand you live in a world with varying points of view. You’re welcome to be upset that people don’t do things the way you want them to, but if your argument is the world will end if they don’t, I don’t think you’ll win many people over to doing things your way.
Originally posted by avengingwatcher:
Seriously if you believed the way I do wouldn't you be a bit upset that other people were saying that their right to an SUV is more important than your right to bring your children and grandchildren into a stable environment?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Welcome to the politics of inconclusive evidence. People want it to be black and white. They want it to be simple, but it’s not.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
See, I'm tired of this black & white, all-or-nothing mentality the media plays up on.
Like either there's global warming, or there isn't. Either it's man-made, or it isn't.
Either it will kill us all, or we're all totally safe.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I’m against apocalyptic hysteria to promote an agenda.
You know... like declaring war on terror, and cringing in obsolete fallout shelters because "the smoking gun might be a mushroom cloud". Nah, you guys would NEVER stoop to apocalyptic hysteria to promote an agenda... [COUGH]WARRANTLESSWIRETAPPING[COUGH]
M
"Me want Kill-Dozer!!"
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Quote:The error bars are a lot smaller on the question of whether the World Trade Center is still standing.
Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
I’m against apocalyptic hysteria to promote an agenda.
You know... like declaring war on terror, and cringing in obsolete fallout shelters because "the smoking gun might be a mushroom cloud". Nah, you guys would NEVER stoop to apocalyptic hysteria to promote an agenda... [COUGH]WARRANTLESSWIRETAPPING[COUGH]
Part of the reason why I think some people are so desperate to buy anything they hear in the doomsday global warming thing is a desire for a obstacle they don’t really believe is real. People are a lot happier fighting the demons that can’t be proven to exist, then those that have been proven to kill.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I’m not that feeble-minded to be terrified into believing in your point of view, because you say we’re all going to die if I don’t. Find a more intelligent perspective, and I’ll probably be more receptive to it.
You've summed up my feelings on the Bush Administration, the "moral majority", and the whole make-war-not-love crowd very succinctly.
Careful, though - you'll insult Aurupture's "great hero".
M
"Me want Kill-Dozer!!"
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Quote:Like Saddam's WMD?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Part of the reason why I think some people are so desperate to buy anything they hear in the doomsday global warming thing is a desire for a obstacle they don’t really believe is real.
Sorry, I had a gun, and the fish in that barrel was goin' nowhere...
Bad Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
and cringing in obsolete fallout shelters
I've wanted my own personal fallout shelter since I read Heinlein's "Farnham's Freehold" when I was a kid. Only a Commie would try and convince me that I don't need one. You're not a Commie, are you?
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