Bad Sci FI
POSTED BY: insight spinner
UPDATED: Saturday, May 1, 2004 02:46
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Originally posted by Calhoun:
BATTLEFIELD EARTH!!! Was the most disappointing Sci-fi movie event ever for me. I read the book for the first time about 20 years ago and loved it!
The book had a special centre insert that talked about the soon to be made movie.. (A movie based on this book!! Soon! WOW!)
Well.. I waited and waited and every few years I would re-read the book and again see the advertisement for the "soon to be made movie" and get all excited again thinking about how good this movie is gunna be, and how it must be close now! its been a few years.....
By about the 6th time i'd read the book and there was still no movie I started getting a little skeptical...
A few more years passed..
Finally! The movie "Battlefield Earth is a reality!! I was STOKED! couldnt wait!
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Man that movie sucked...
It would probably have had to be pretty damn good to live up to 20 years of expectation. Still..
I so agree w/ you. Absolute worst sci fi movie of all time. It was horrible and did the book such an injustice that it should be struck forever from the minds of mankind.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Millenium
Starship Troopers
"We are exporting democracy because we have all of this unused democracy lying around at home. Why not make some money doing it?"
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Now admittedly some of the "Expanded Universe" novels and whatnot are beyond contempt, but the sad thing is to me the prequels are as bad if not worse than most of it.
True. Some of the Expanded Universe is aweful----some examples of that are The Crystal Star, and The Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy.
Some more of it is bad, but readable, like Children of the Jedi and The Black Fleet Crisis.
I'd be hard-pressed to call the prequels worse than any of those, actually, now that I think about it.
However, much of the EU is actually great material. Anything by Timothy Zhan, Micheal Stackpole, or Aaron Allston is well worth reading. As is much of The New Jedi Order series. And *those* are certainly far and away better than the prequels.
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i guess i'm suprised no one has mentioned any of the Star Trek Movies (either that or i can't read), i'd say they were all pretty lame each one just added to the pain.
Erm what else, Dune the original which made no sense to me when i was made to watch it. i know i was young then but even now all i do is pick at how much it draags out.
Erm a really crap film i watched the other month : Insemenoid...well dodgy, Er Spaceballs anyone remember that?
Erm the brood...i'm fearful of midgets at the best of times but this film has just added to the fear.
Independance day.... granted our Jayne featured in that, it just didn't quite do it for me.
not very much in my eyes passes for good sci-fi.
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Bad Sci-Fi?
Considering that Firefly was cancelled because it wasn't Star Trek or Star Wars I would hope that people might try to understand the larger picture regarding the state or story in Sci-Fi TV and movies today. Wild guess... it's all cow pucks.
Take Enterprise, a show that can't remember the plot from one act to the next. It's not just a bad show but amaturish. Take Phantom Menace; widely considered a betrayal of the characters. Take most new Sci-Fi and note how great concepts from the likes of P.K. Dick to King are taken by Hollywoodland wonks and ripped to shreads. Turned into poop. Completely raped that story... oooh, yea, ugly. Notice no one has done a Necromancer movie yet? It's because the story hasn't the elements Hollywoodland wonks want. Sexy bits, explosions, the usual rubbish.
That's why Joss Whedon and Tim Minear and the rest are such a breath of fresh air. They actually write well. Thier characters are the most important part of all thier stories. Other Sci-Fi shows believe the explosions are more important.
Hollywoodland is determined to fire talented people like Joss and Tim because Hollywoodland marketing wonks want thier jobs and money. If they can create a reality show and fire Joss - they will in a New York minute.
And to be specific I'm shocked some people don't know Buckaroo Bonzai is a classic of Jamaican alien invasion! Day of the Triffids is old time Sci-Fi. Plan 9 From Outer Space is a singular artistic vision. I'd take these movies over Van Helsing, Hulk, or some other bombastic Hollywoodland sillyness any day.
Thank God for Quenton Tarintino! Kill Bill Vol.2 is sooooo good! Hi-YA! *splut!*
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Originally posted by Tracer:
... Er Spaceballs anyone remember that?
Dude, Spaceballs rocked!
Lone Star: "Great.. she's a Druish princess."
Barf: "Funny, she doesn't look Druish."
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Yogurt: "Merchandising, that's where the real money is made!"
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Colonel Sanders: "Megamaid has gone from suck to blow!"
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"Let's moon 'em!"
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I can't remember the name of the show but it was a cross between ER and DS9, really awful. I think it was on UPN and thankfully it didn't last very long.
Trekkie,Browncoat,Leaper,MSTie
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hm...let me turn on the so-called "Sci Fi Channel", oh look, it's crap! (okay 9 times out 10, when they are not running "Stargate SG-1" which I have enjoyed the few episodes i've seen)
Sci Fi or "genre television" as Joss likes to call it, has a bad rap because it caters to different kind of demographic that it seems TV/Hollywood no longer care about, or don't understand.
For awhile it seemed promising - Buffy and X Files, two well written shows were making big waves. Buffy was never a huge ratings machine. X Files took awhile to catch on. Could these shows survive today? I think "Firefly" proves that the networks no longer have the patience.
Now that LOTR has won a truckload of oscars, I'm hoping some good sci-fi/fantasy will get the greenlight. Of course, we also know that means studios will greenlight the bad sci-fi/fantasy as well, because they are big on self-fullfilling prophecies.
So just be prepared to add to your lists. For example - I enjoyed "Pitch Black", it wasn't the greatest ever and I probably won't watch it again, but it was fun. Now they have made a sequel and from the trailers I've seen, it looks like a mix of too many special effects and an over complicated plot that, in the end, will all be rectified by Riddick blowing up everything in his path.
It's good that Joss has a hard head, because a lesser writer/director might bow before the studios, but you know when the BDM comes out, he's going to do it HIS way. At least ONE good Sci Fi movie will be out in 2005.
(btw, Hitchhiker's Guide will be coming out in 2005 but looking at the current cast list at imdb.com...well, it's probably best that Adams is dead because this would have kill him)
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Originally posted by Malicious:
A movie called "Day of the Triffids"--walking corn stalks that were eventually defeated by, I think, spraying sea water on 'em.
Mal-licious
Okay which version? The 1962 version where they wind up in Spain. Or the BBC miniseries from 1981 which probably sticks closer to the book than the 1962 version.
The original story was written by John Wyndham who also wrote The Midwich Cuckoos which was turned into The Village of the Damned both the 1960 and 1995 versions.
Jaymes
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Originally posted by Thundar:
"Battle Beyond the Stars"
The Seven Samurai in SPACE! With Robert Vaughn who was in The Magnificent Seven.
Jaymes
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