Stargate Atlantis
POSTED BY: PopeyeDoyle71
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 12:47
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Well you can count me on my own in regards to Lost as well. I quit watching that show at the end of last season. It's a waste of effort and time. Which are two things I don't like to waste anymore of. It started off promising but it's sad they just devolved into a show that's trying to be more deep and meaningful than what the writers are capable of doing. So they just make it look smart and not actually do anything. Sorta like a politician. Oh sure they sound pretty(usually) but that just means they are just talking BS. But hey like I said to each his/her own. I do love some of the acting that show had and a handful of characters are better than the show deserves. The writers definitely have a lot of skill and talent, as do the actors. I just feel it's wasted more than it succeeds.
Anyway, I'd forgotten how much I loved the recently rerun episode of Atlantis. Rodney getting high on the Wraith enzyme was priceless and another example of how amazing David Hewlett is. Also John's flight in the Dart was great, even the one bit that they nearly copied a style and scene from Star Wars. Radek had a good bit, Caldwell and Lorne did as well. Chuck was in it, though at this point I don't think he had a name officially. It was only recently made "canonically" official when Carter called him that on one of the last couple eps. He's been on the show since season one I believe and in season two took over a chief gate tech. So he's seen a lot just not heard or mentioned much. I think he's actually not credited for a good number of the episodes he is actually in. Anyway when Atlantis does it right they REALLY do it right.
A good episode of Atlantis is better than a great episode of TNG. A great episode of Atlantis, for me anyway, is nearly on par with an episode of Firefly... note I said NEARLY. Nothing will ever touch Firefly for me. It's become more to me than what it's bits and pieces make it out to be. I'm incapable of fairly judging it.
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"When you can't do something smart, do something right." -Jayne quoting Book
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Originally posted by StrangeBird:
Well you can count me on my own in regards to Lost as well. I quit watching that show at the end of last season. It's a waste of effort and time. Which are two things I don't like to waste anymore of. It started off promising but it's sad they just devolved into a show that's trying to be more deep and meaningful than what the writers are capable of doing. So they just make it look smart and not actually do anything. Sorta like a politician. Oh sure they sound pretty (usually) but that just means they are just talking BS.
Count me in on that too, as regards to LOST.
Initially, I was mightily intrigued. The suspense was killing me! How on Earth-That-Is were they gonna explain these bizarre phenomena?? Dark, animated smoke that attacks people? If you can't walk... well, one day you crash on an island and you get up anyway! It all kept me on the edge of my seat. Then one day the dime dropped: there wasn't gonna be any resolution! To any of it. All the suspense was just there for the sake of suspense. I felt duped. Really cheated. They even went so far as to introduce (unexplained) time-travel.
See, there's where I get off. Such suspense, IMHO, is really only acceptable when there's a resolution on the horizon. And you keep watching cuz, not understanding, you figure it's gonna be a really clever one! Gots to be! Only to find out you've been had. And I've had it with being had.
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Quote:I just saw that stuff for the first time on DVD last couple of nights- talk about coincidence!
Originally posted by StrangeBird:
Anyway, I'd forgotten how much I loved the recently rerun episode of Atlantis. Rodney getting high on the Wraith enzyme was priceless and another example of how amazing David Hewlett is. Also John's flight in the Dart was great, even the one bit that they nearly copied a style and scene from Star Wars.
This is great stuff!!! Right up there with FF, Dark Angel & Buffy for me!
'Course, NOTHING's better than Serenity.
NOTHING.
Obsessed in many ways Chrisisall
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Thanks for the backup Asarian. My quiting the show was a mix between my reason stated and Charlie's death. I know alot of folks hated Charlie anyway but he was my favorite character.
Anyway, so I guess you've already watched the episode with Teyla singing then Chrisisall? She's got a beautiful voice. Overall season 2 is probably the best of the series so far. It's got it all. I still love the rest of the show but season 2 has more of my favorites than any other.
I liked Ford but Ronon Dex is a combination of brilliant character design and perfect casting. Those dreads are real. Only thing about him I don't like is the skull dread ring. I can see Ronon liking it but I think it's a bit much.
Do not read below unless your ready for a spoiler. It's not a huge one but one I accidentally stumbled on and pertains to Ronon in season 5.
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BTW Jason Momoa has cut his dreads off. He says they were getting to be a pain and interfering with his daily activities. Not to mention being really heavy and causing some neck pain. They'll be attached via an agonizingly long process for the first episode of season five and then afterwards Ronon will most likely have shorter hair. Believe me I've seen pics and he still looks like a bad ass, just a bit more civilized one.
Please post any remarks to this in spoiler brackets... some folks might care. I don't, it's not a huge spoiler, but still.
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"When you can't do something smart, do something right." -Jayne quoting Book
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I recently converted some family and friends to SGA, and we all sat and watched through them together—it was almost like watching them again for the first time. So many jewels I had forgotten about! Now there's nothing to do but wait a week between episodes, though, so I'm watching SG-1 and Farscape in between. The latter—I'm a bit "meh" about, like the new BSG. SG-1, though...never was a fan before, but after getting through the first two seasons, it started to grow on me, and I'm pretty hooked now at the end of season 5. Atlantis is better from the beginning in both storyline and character development, but it was also made later and many of the writers started writing for SG-1. Both Stargate shows have helped to fill that void in my life that lack of Firefly created...can't entirely compare, of course, but I don't need that.
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"My way of being polite, or however...well, it's the only way I have of showing you that I like you. Of showing respect." Simon Tam, Jaynestown
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Stargate captures, better than alot of scifi, the extended family feel. With characters in tough moral and political predicaments having to work together and deal with one another to get by. It's not at all Firefly but it's in the same vein so to speak. Stargate does tend to have a more military feel to it at times than alot of TV Scifi. Mainly due to the involvement of the Air Force. They've had a couple of Generals on as themselves as well as a whole lot of extras who are actually Air Force personnel. Adds a bit of realism to the crazy stuff that goes on at Cheyenne Mountain and Atlantis. Add to it the great guest stars they've had, Adam Baldwin, Jewel Staite(Before she became a regular), Dom Deluise(No surprise as his sons have all worked on the show, one being a director and writer I think) and quite a few others I can't think of at the moment. It's had it's share of bumps and a handful of crappy episodes on both series but as far as Scifi goes Stargate falls in at number 2 for Atlantis and number 3 for SG-1... 1 ofcourse being Firefly. For me anyway, don't get your knickers in a twist if you disagree.
One of these days I'll stop ranting about Stargate but I don't see that coming to pass anytime too soon.
Good job on the converts MerryK. Do they watch Firefly too? If you haven't seen it Eureka is also a great show to watch to sate a bit of Scifi, comedy,drama cravings. I as well am not a Farscape lover but I do enjoy the show most of the time. BSG and me do not get along together. I respect it though and we've both agreed to disagree.
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Originally posted by StrangeBird:
Good job on the converts MerryK. Do they watch Firefly too? If you haven't seen it Eureka is also a great show to watch to sate a bit of Scifi, comedy,drama cravings. I as well am not a Farscape lover but I do enjoy the show most of the time. BSG and me do not get along together. I respect it though and we've both agreed to disagree
Oh yeah, Firefly was the first thing I introduced them to... Now I get them sidling up to me when we see each other and saying: "So, find anything else cool for me to watch?"
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"My way of being polite, or however...well, it's the only way I have of showing you that I like you. Of showing respect." Simon Tam, Jaynestown
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Quote:Yeah, that was great- Teyla is like, my second favourite character.
Originally posted by StrangeBird:
Anyway, so I guess you've already watched the episode with Teyla singing then Chrisisall? She's got a beautiful voice. Overall season 2 is probably the best of the series so far.
And when Sheppard said "I saw it in a movie once", I almost choked with laughter...(Yes, I bought season 3; try not to faint...).

Addicted Chrisisall
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Quote:Check this out- I posted it at Gateworld to piss off some dude that said BSG's characters were more realistic than SGA's...
Originally posted by StrangeBird:
Stargate captures, better than alot of scifi, the extended family feel.

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John Sheppard:
"So, what are these Cylons like?"
Lee Adama:
"They hate us for making them our robot slaves early on in our history, and have taken on organic human form to both infiltrate and destroy us."
John:
".....come again?"
Lee:
"Come where..?
John:
"I mean, robots that become organic..like, Humans?? Is that like the chick on Star Trek that merged with Decker?"
Lee:
"I...I don't know what you're referring to..."
John:
"What? You don't get signals from Earth? Like TV...football games? They got this one play called the 'Hail Mary' that's-"
Lee:
"Look! This is serious, the Cylons might have detected your arrival!"
John:
"All right, all right, cool down. Geez, you guys are uptight. No time for laughs in the down-time?"
Lee:
"We have no down time while the Cylons are at work."
John:
"Hey- the Wraith are out to kick our ass too, but you don't see us all gloomy-Guss. Gotta have a good time where ya can, that's what I say."
Lee:
"Our 'good times' ended with the destruction of our colonies."
John:
"Here, let me buy you a beer...I'll introduce you to Ronon, he's a barrel of laughs too..."
I crack myself upisall
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ROFLMAO!!
Brilliant.
I can imagine the characters saying these lines perfectly.
I'm not really a fanfic person but this crossover might make a good one if someone where up for writing it. Unless someone has.
I'm actually one of the fans who likes BSG because it is gloomy and miserable (amongst other reasons). I don't see why all shows have to have a sense of humour, like there is some kind of pattern or template to follow that says you can have the serious episodes but you need the light hearted ones as well.
Having said that the humour of SGA is one of the main reasons that draws me to that show.
It's the main reason I kept watching Supernatural in the beginning. It's one of my favourite things about Joss's shows and many others.
Also I think if Ronon ever came face to face with the Toasters then they would regret ever being made. Ronon would kick their arse (ass to you US folks).
"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."
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