Views from a non-Browncoat...

POSTED BY: SpaceAnJL
UPDATED: Thursday, February 21, 2008 19:22
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SPACEANJL

Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:09 PM

That whole 'crime is for the young' bit...I would find it more interesting with the idea that you might have the oldest gang of reprobates in the 'Verse. You ever read Pratchett? Cohen the Barbarian and the Silver Horde. Very old barbarian heroes. It takes a certain talent.

I think Jayne stands a better chance of outliving most of them - you might notice that in the 'Train Job', he was the one sitting with his back to the wall and facing the door. Plus he's been shot - it just seems to piss him off. Him, I could imagine running a saloon. Or possibly a small town.

Simon is going to grow up grumpy - House with a slightly nicer disposition. If he ever lives planetside, it better be somewhere with a really good junkyard. Y'know, somewhere for the kids to play whilst Mom's fixin' stuff.

Zoe...if Inara does become something important, she might need a bodyguard. (I've been reading C J Cherryh again, and I always hear Jago as sounding like Gina T)

Mal lost the only ground he would ever live on, I think. He'll keep flying for as long as Serenity keeps in the sky. And while Serenity flies, she'll need a pilot.

NCBROWNCOAT

Sunday, February 17, 2008 4:36 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
That whole 'crime is for the young' bit...I would find it more interesting with the idea that you might have the oldest gang of reprobates in the 'Verse. You ever read Pratchett? Cohen the Barbarian and the Silver Horde. Very old barbarian heroes. It takes a certain talent.

I think Jayne stands a better chance of outliving most of them - you might notice that in the 'Train Job', he was the one sitting with his back to the wall and facing the door. Plus he's been shot - it just seems to piss him off. Him, I could imagine running a saloon. Or possibly a small town.

Simon is going to grow up grumpy - House with a slightly nicer disposition. If he ever lives planetside, it better be somewhere with a really good junkyard. Y'know, somewhere for the kids to play whilst Mom's fixin' stuff.

Zoe...if Inara does become something important, she might need a bodyguard. (I've been reading C J Cherryh again, and I always hear Jago as sounding like Gina T)

Mal lost the only ground he would ever live on, I think. He'll keep flying for as long as Serenity keeps in the sky. And while Serenity flies, she'll need a pilot.

Haven't read Pratchett (I will soon if dear daughter consents to lend me one of hers), but I can see Mal at least, roaming around the 'verse with arthritic joints, hobbling around in a tattered Browncoat, gray hair and still doing a bit of crime as long as Serenity can fly.

Jayne will either be the last dead or the first. Just depends on what he does.

I can see Jayne running a saloon only if he can crack a few heads every once and a while. Otherwise I see him still a mercenary until the very end. Stopped either by a bullet or dying of alcohol poisoning while with a whore.

Love your description of Simon as House with a nicer disposition. So true. He needs a nice backwater where he's really needed and lots of repair work for Kaylee.

Zoe will stick with Mal until the end. I don't see her leaving Mal and Serenity at all.

I don't see Inara remaining a Companion unless she goes back to the Training House to teach and I think that's a stretch. At the end of the BDM she is disillusioned with the Alliance and is at a crossroads in her life.

Inara would have to find some way to be of use if she decided to stay on Serenity. I agree that she would be very unhappy just waiting for Mal to come back from his life of crime. Who could stand that?

If Inara leaves Serenity, I see her teaching on a planet or moon maybe not as sophisticated as Persephone (to many old clients there) but one with some sort of emerging upper class. She would be cofortable teaching etiquette, the arts etc. to the children but she wouldn't be happy deep down.

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WYTCHCROFT

Monday, February 18, 2008 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
...Terms of husband and kids after she 'retires'.

I have my own ideas about the Guild and the politics of the 'Verse. OVC states that Companions have social and political prominence when they retire, and they move in the kind of circles that would certainly let them know where the bodies were buried, politically speaking.

and thereby hangs a fic i've been working on for six months now and it still aint ready!:) balancing all the possible developments and keeping them in character for Inara is a difficult business. one issue not mentioned here is her reaction to the attack on the training house. The Operative but also his squad - what did they do after Inara lit the flash bomb and ran?
The worst case scenario would be that they wiped the place out - ala Haven and the Sanchez Bros. and everyone else supposedly. Best case - the oh so polite Operative took his men and left - some time later a few of the facts emerged and those Girls with parents and family suddenly left... since they were living somewhere proven to be UNSAFE.

Anyway Inara's reactions to these events could be interesting. Also what she thought of the whole Nandi business (not in relation to Mal but) in relation to her murder and the 'Independent' girls and what happened to them.

ramble on!

ASARIAN

Monday, February 18, 2008 11:06 AM

I'm one of them rare folks who think Mal and Inara DO work. :) Sure as the turn of the worlds, they're from worlds that turn differently. And I ain't saying I ain't seeing difficulties, but at the end of Shindig, sitting on that grid, they're so comfortable with each other, that I can really see it happen.

Sure, Inara'd prefer more conversation and somewhat less petty theft and getting hit with pool cues, but look at how naturally she stashes away that bundle of cash Mal took off the bay guys (money they earned with the sweat of their slave-tradin' brows). Like as not, Inara IS part of that crew. Whatever social matrix keeps her outwardly constrained to experiencing society from on high, in her heart-of-hearts, I believe she wants to be on Serenity.

And Mal? Because of his chosen role of rebel, there is, equally outwardly, always this near obligatory resistance against anything even reeking of Alliance and high society. But Jane Espenson, who wrote Shindig, worded it best: Inara is not truly comfortable amid the Persephone 'nobility', much as Mal ain't entirely comfortable at Badger's tea-party! That's why, somewhere in the middle, I see a large enough slice of 'Verse for them to meet and build on.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

CHAPTERANDVERSE

Monday, February 18, 2008 2:26 PM

Nicely put Asarian. I have never been a Mal/Inara shipper, but you make some damn fine points.
Ever considered entering politics?

SMAUG

Monday, February 18, 2008 5:49 PM

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I'm one of them rare folks who think Mal and Inara DO work. :)

You can count me in on that also. I have been a huge Mal/Inara fan from the get go.

I've rambled on about them in posts far too much to repeat any of it here.

But if you look at one thing. Between the series and the movie (as shown in the comic books), Inara does leave Serenity. In the movie we find her in a companion training house. Now I don't believe it is said explicitly but from everything that is said and shown, it appears that Inara is NOT seeing any clients. She's become a teacher, passing on her skills to new girls. If that is in deed the case, Inara has already stopped doing something that was one of the roadblocks keeping them apart.. and it's up to debate weither or not Inara at this point would ever go back to seeing clients again.

And as Asarian stated, neither one of them is completely comfortable in the direction they lean. Pleanty of room in the middle for them to find common ground. Inara LOVES being on serenity.. for a reason we do not know yet (she seems to be running from something or someone). So it's not like for them to be together that Mal has to move to some central planet and "settle" down or anything. And as seen in trainjob, shindig, heart of gold, and trash, Inara can more than do her fair share when it comes to "petty theiving".

It can sort of be seen as a reverse "Original Sin". Where instead of the guy being drawn into her world of outlawing... she is drawn into his. Sort of.. but not exactly of course.

lol.

But in the end.. I think their story is about them comming together... not them BEING together. Weither we get 2 more movies or if the show went on for 10 years. I doubt we would have seen a happy Mal and Inara together. If we did.. a storm would be brewing and something bad would happen... probably the death of one of them. Hopefully not, more likely we would either see them come together, then split apart, then come back together and so on. OR it would only be in the end that we would finally get a glimmer of hope that they will end up together, and then left to each our own desires of what would happen between them as the final story (movie or tv episode) came to a close.

At the end of the movie, which MAY be the last offical on screen(not book/comic book) version of Firefly we ever see, that's exactly what happend. Mal asking Inara if she's ready to get back to civilied life? And her looking at him and answering "I don't know" with a moment of hesitation and a small nervous smile of hope.

"Good answer".

A glimmer of hope and left to our desires of what will happen between them. Yes Mal.. if that's the last we ever see of them on screen ever again... it is a good answer... a good answer indeed.

Smaug..

BROWNCOATOFNH

Monday, February 18, 2008 8:21 PM

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At the end of the movie, which MAY be the last offical on screen(not book/comic book) version of Firefly we ever see

Ouch!

"I aim to misbehave"

PLATONIST

Monday, February 18, 2008 11:48 PM

Agreed, Smaug, a coming together storyline more than a being together story.

And a good answer at that... Joss describes their ending resolution (on the commentary) as the promise of something, hopefully a chance in a sequel to see these two characters interact again.

11THHOUR

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:20 AM

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So...Inara Serra for President?

Sure!

She is a highly capable and accomplished person possessing many skills...

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:06 PM

1st post...

I admit, I'm a Mal/Inara shipper because I'm a hopeless romantic. However, one thing that always complicates things for them, IMHO, is what would Inara do if she retired from active Companioning? I can't imagine Mal being willing to settle down on a planet while Inara teaches, or Inara waiting on Serenity for Mal to come home from the latest job. On the other hand, Simon and Kaylee have similar obstacles and got together anyway, so who knows?

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