Summer Glau's new show: Sarah Connor Chronicles

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ECGORDON

Friday, February 15, 2008 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by TheMarked:
How could someone make something good like Firefly and fail so hopelessly with Buffy and Angel? Too bad the worst survived for seasons while the best didn't even get 1. What a damn shame.

Whoa there! Now who's dissing other productions by Firefly writers and producers? That comment is just as arrogant, and downright wrong, as anything anyone else has said against TSCC on this thread. I know it's all just a matter of taste and personal opinion, but anyone who doesn't think highly of Buffy and Angel loses a lot of respect from me. How much of either of those shows have you watched? In my (not so) humble opinion, Firefly is the best television show ever produced, but Buffy and Angel both make it into at least the Top 10 of my favorites, if not the Top 5.

MUGGI

Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:16 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:

P.S. Reading your nick, there, I just realized that's Quark's mother. :)

LOL is it really?

And I thought I was SOOO original :P Muggi Slugfingers was the name of my gnome bard in Everquest 2 and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, two online games.

p.s.: I'm a guy, and so was the character!

ASARIAN

Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:53 AM

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Originally posted by TheMarked:

Exactly my point. The Browncoats fought to get the movie and failed to fight further.

In earnest, you've made what, a good 3 posts here? Don't ya think it's a mite odd for you to tell veteran Browncoats that the've "failed to fight further"? They've already Done The Impossible; have you?

Point of interest? Calling folks "mindless trolls" might not work so well as an incentive to endear them to you as you might imagine.

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Some of you won't even allow others opinions.

Seems odd you would support an argument you were on the wrong side of. Because, quite frankly, I see no one here so vehemently trying to suppress other opinions than you.

The irony of it all, is that Browncoats are the exact opposite from "mindless" drones; they are independents. They don't like to be meddled with. Don't tell them what to think, what to do. "Don't run, don't walk." Start ringing a bell?

Browncoats beat as one heart when it comes to Firefly/Serenity. But when it comes to other shows, it's likely you'll see some divergence.

Overall, this is the most loving board I've ever been on. I'm thinking perhaps you chose the wrong thread to introduce yourself to the 'Verse? So, are you on the wrong ship? Maybe. Or maybe you're exactly where you ought to be. :)

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STONER4LIFE

Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:48 AM

Like that person, I'm a second gen firefly fan. I agree with ya guys, Firefly was a good show. But don't get confused. If it wasn't for Summer Glau, the actual star of the show (Yes, it wasn't Nathan), Firefly would be a mediocre show. Seriously... Who stood out of the crowd of Firefly? River. Who intrigued more than the others of the show? River. Who stole every scene she was in? River. Who was the subject of the movie? River (and the Reavers, but River mostly).

I read that the 1st gen browncoats were responsible for the movie. If you did everything right, Firefly would still be on television! So don't give yourself credit for getting a movie, give yourself credit for allowing the network to cancel Firefly in the first place!!! And also, who went to check out the movie at the cinema, huh?!? Huh?!? You tell me why it was a box office flop!!! And you call yourself fans. And before you start asking me where I was: it was the movie I saw at the movie theater that made me watch the show, so there!!!

IF ya hate Terminator... whatever, you know? But help out a Browncoat, okay? Least thing you could do is put your tv on whatever network it's on and do something else for an hour or so. And think about it: if ya help Summer out, her star will rise: more free publicity for Firefly.

You should be ashamed for what you're doing to Summer Glau. I'm taking off my brown coat. I'm done with you people.

ASARIAN

Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:05 PM

A good actress is like a flower: she'll only flourish on vertile soil. Joss provided that, plentifold. TSCC doesn't. The thing I'm uncomprehending on, though, is why that position angers folks so--to the degree of tossing their brown coat, even. Must we hail everything Summer does, just because she's Summer? Or is there room to acknowldge that the director/writer of a show plays an integral part in allowing a flower like Summer to blossom? And, conversely, are we given the space to notice that other directors/shows are not as good as Joss? I'd like to think I can credit Joss' genius, next to that of Summer. And that one does not detract from the other--ere the opposite: that it is the synergy of great souls that makes Firefly work. If I give Summer all the credit, then what my right hand gives to Summer, my left hand takes away from Joss. And I'm not prepared to do that. And, in earnest, I don't even think she'd want us to.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

ECGORDON

Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:41 PM

I find it highly illogical for those who didn't discover the 'verse until the movie to be criticizing those of us who did watch the series when it was originally on the air. Where were you then? We may be able to lay the blame on the FOX execs who didn't give it a good timeslot, refused to air the pilot first, altered the order of the other episodes, and generally under-promoted the show. However, it is people like you who were not watching it that caused its cancellation, not those of us who were watching and trying desperately to get the attention of others.

TSCC will survive or fail based on its own merits. I've watched it, and will continue to watch what FOX offers, and even hope they pick it up for more episodes. Not because I think it is a great show, but it does have potential which I hope is eventually realized. I can read, and to an extent agree with, some of the criticisms of the show without attempting to brand those critics as traitors to the cause. I agree that Summer was an extremely integral part of both Firefly and Serenity, and in my review of the series - http://templetongate.net/firefly.htm - even went as far as saying she was the one whose acting impressed me the most, mainly because her role was so intriguing as well as the fact she had the least acting experience of anyone in the cast. I do not for one second think that is all of her own doing, but rather the fact that Joss and the rest of the cast and crew were so good at their jobs that they supported her every effort to do the best job possible.

Anyone who wants to claim that we have to support and praise everything that our BDHs do in the future ought to check out two different Sci-Fi "Original" movies - Mammoth and Sands of Oblivion. Summer was in the former, and Morena and Adam in the latter. Both stunk to high heaven, both in concept and execution. That is not to say that the actors didn't do the best they could with weak scripts and direction, but I can't think of an actor in history who could be so good as to overcome everything else in a production that is wrong. Possibly Olivier, but even he was in some clunkers now and then.

So in summation, watch the show or don't, it doesn't matter to me. Just don't try to tell the rest of us that we have to have the same opinion of it.

PS: I'm laying odds that TheMarked and Stoner4Life are the same person. Any takers?

ASARIAN

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:02 PM

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Originally posted by Muggi:

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Originally posted by asarian:

P.S. Reading your nick, there, I just realized that's Quark's mother. :)

LOL is it really?

And I thought I was SOOO original :P Muggi Slugfingers was the name of my gnome bard in Everquest 2 and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, two online games.

p.s.: I'm a guy, and so was the character!

Come to think of it, I now think the term of endearment used for Quark's mother was probably "Mugi/Moogi" (which actually sounds close to the Dutch vernacular of "Moeke/Moekie", meaning: "Mother"). So, Muggi is still original, it seems. :)

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

MUGGI

Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:50 PM

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You should be ashamed for what you're doing to Summer Glau. I'm taking off my brown coat. I'm done with you people.

I still don't understand why people equate the actor with the show..there's many, MANY instances throughout history where a very good actor has been the only bright spot in a tv show, movie, play, etc etc etc.

Why does ripping on how poorly a show is MADE have ANYTHING to do with how the actors perform? One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other. Summer doesn't write the show any more than the writers and directors appear on-screen. This question still has not been answered.

As for not supporting Firefly when it was on tv..FULL PAGE AD IN VARIETY dude. Name me another group of fans that have pulled together the cash for that. Please don't insult those who went to extreme lengths to keep the show running.

MIRAMEL

Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:24 PM

i've been holding off from weighing in here, mostly because i don't want to get myself all riled up, and also because people like asarian and jongsstraw and egg pretty much have my opinion covered. but the insults aimed at the original 'coats are really starting to piss me off.

you weren't there, (also, just for clarification, neither was i- i jumped into the 'verse about a month before serenity hit theaters) you have NO idea what they did/ could have done. the fact is, they did EVERYTHING they could, and quite a few things that everyone thought they really couldn't. i'm sorry, i don't think this is opinion, i think this is straight-up fact. as someone said a few posts ago, the fault then lies with YOU (and me) who weren't there in the beginning. so where the hell do you get off insulting the people who have actually been doing something long before you knew there was anything to do? another thing you have to realize is that there just weren't that many 'coats when it originally aired. there wasn't anything more they could ahve done with the troops they had.

and as someone said a minute ago, suggesting that a show a BDH is in is poorly written or executed is in NO way the same as insulting that particular BDH. mammoth is a good example.

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DARKFLY

Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:18 PM

I randomly stumbled arcoss this page on the Mr.Skin site & Summer Glau is amounst the most searched on the site, no doubt to her wider fame for her role in The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Here's the link if anybody wants to see for themselves:
http://www.mrskin.com/search/search

And a here is a Screenshot I took of the page, she's up their with the big guns (no pun intended).

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