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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:15 AM

Subject = Best Pair....

Hmmnnn.. Saffron without a doubt has the "best pair"!

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:37 PM

I don't see the Inara/Mal relationship working. I believe their past would cloud the relationship. Mal seems to have a problem with Inara being a companion. Even if she did give it up the fact that she had done it would still be there. Equally, he slept with her friend and has called her a whore once too often.

However, I could see Book and Inara getting together. It would be more a loving/friendship relationship than a passionate one. They both come across as lonely people who are trapped by the labels that their jobs force on them. Together they would have companionship and security.

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:32 PM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
Subject = Best Pair....

Hmmnnn.. Saffron without a doubt has the "best pair"!


I disagree. Saffron may have the biggest pair, but that hardly makes them the best. My vote is for Zoe or Inara.

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:41 PM

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Originally posted by zoid:
Jahzara:
(Edit) Oops, almost forgot: Imagine the comedic opportunity as the entire crew grimace at the high-decibel moaning and groaning issuing from Jayne/Kaylee's crew quarters, during those first blushing weeks of their 'romance'. WASH: "A bucket of ice water as I understand it, Sir, is quite effective for separating the livestock."



Okay zoid, you said it, now we want to see you (or anyone) give us that story. LOL. I'd volunteer but I can't write Kaylee at all!

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:26 PM

Jahzara,

Interesting insights, of course. But, as Kaylee is one of my very favorite people, I'm going to play Kaylee's advocate here:)

First of all, I doubt Simon is a virgin. I mean, you have SEEN him, right? Oh yeah, evidence, sure ok... well, at the end of Jaynestown, I think it is, he mentions a girl he had a relationship with in school. Plus, you've seen him.

Also, we're all talking about Jayne's growth as a human being, here, and River's progress as she gets better. I think we're neglecting some of Kaylee's growth as well. When we met her with Bester, she was obviously looking for excitement, and something new. But did you see her face when Mal offered her the job? She was thrilled to be offered a steady job in an adventurous environment... so what's to say she wouldn't want the same thing out of a relationship? Life aboard Serenity can be pretty topsy-turvy. Wouldn't it make sense for her to want to cling to something more stable and steady?

Furthermore, she gets disappointed on an emotional level whenever Simon hurts her. And she really enjoys the fact that he respects her (end of Jaynestown). She also gets sincerely disappointed when someone teases her about liking/desiring Simon. He's a hot guy, yes, but he is more than that to her. Clearly, she is interested in him as a more long term option...stable, (formerly) rich, intelligent, but rebellious enough to sacrifice everything to make sure his sister is safe. He is also capable of being protective, in ways that he can be, and we've all seen Kaylee (not) use a gun.

Lastly, he doesn't get scared off by her honesty. A lot of men hate heart-on-sleeve-ness... speaking from personal experience here. When you find one that can handle it, he's worth keeping 9 out of 10 times... if you can even FIND 10 men like that...

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Originally posted by zoid:
Jahzara:


Follow me for a sec. When we 'meet' Kayley in OoG, she's doing what? Taking advantage of poor Bester just so's she can get a better look at Serenity's engines from underneath, on her back. Now I'm not much of a judge of a man's sexual prowess, but Bester comes across as monkeysurferguy and the brief glimpse we get as Mal rounds the engine is that, as Ian Hunter (before Great White) put it, Kaylee "was givin' what she got". She also relates a story to River in (I believe) OiS about a freakishly well-endowed boy she ravaged back home, earning her daddy's wrath.

...
Based on what we've seen of Simon thus far, I'm led to believe that -- despite having finer facial features and being more well-mannered than Jayne -- he may be something of a novice (virgin?) at procreational gymnastics. That might not fly with Kaylee, who appears to like a rollicksome time in the hay.




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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:32 PM

well in keeping with the isolated 'Best Pair-o-boobs" bit,i'm gonna have to put my vote in for River,not that Zoe and Inara's aren't nice...just something about River.

I'll be in my bunk.-Jayne

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:50 PM

The Mal/Inara thing has possibilities and it's obvious that Inara has it bad for Mal. Mal does show caring towards Inara in several episodes but the way he calls her whore sounds malicious, not even like he's just trying to tease her. I think Mal's gal is Serenity. He's never (that I remember) looked at Inara the way he looked at Serenity across that junkyard in Out of Gas. Is that just a little out there (let's think Captain Kirk, shall we. He took women but certainly Enterprise had his heart).

I love the Kaylee and Simon pairing but really don't see it lasting because of what we know about Kaylee's sexual appetite. I don't think Simon has it in him to keep up with her.

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:14 PM

I think that the Jayne?Kaylee thing is a little off... I have a younger sister, who I tease and harrass and generally irritate in pretty much the same manner that Jayne does to Kaylee (comments about lubrication, etc). I annoy her constantly, and am always under her skin.

God Himself cannot save the life of any misguided soul who EVER mistreats my sister, though.

I think Jayne and Kaylee's relationship is much the same. He's crude, rude, and a big mean dude, but actually does have a heart, and truly cares for Kaylee, like a little sister (and, as we saw in the pilot, would eagerly destroy anyone who harmed her).

But, as always, I just might not know what the hell I'm talking about (see one of my previous posts, covering "The Truth of Whedoning")

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:50 PM

SO much fun!

Zoid:

I can see where you're coming from with Kaylee. I don't think she's quite that disregarding of others feelings.
It's more likely for her to get drunk and sleep with Jayne. And then realize there's something there. I don't know...more of the fanfic is circulating in my head now. It may come to pass.

Meneluin:

There is no way Simon's a virgin. I'm sure that he (like Kaylee said in The Message) at least some women who wanted a gorgeous, rich, and intelligent doctor from a very good family. I'm sure he's been seduced or something when he was younger. But I doubt Simon has ever been in a serious relationship. I have a whole 'nother fanfic floating around in my head for that.

I need to find time to write.


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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:13 PM

My pair?

I go with one I proposed a while back:

Kaylee/Wash.

A lot of people rolled their eyes and "hated" the idea, but I stick by it. From the Zoe/Wash child rearing argument to his comments to Kaylee in HOG, I think there is some unexlplored chemistry between them.

Think about it..they are both within each others age group, both are integral in keeping Serenity in the air, both have a VERY similar outlook on life...

A lot of folks hated the idea of the union because it would break up Zoe/Wash. I appreciate their protective outlook on that relationship, but come on, anyone paying even a bit of attention knew that union was going to hit the bricks at some point.

Think about this:

What if Wash thought Zoe was dead?

It's possible.. a deal goes bad, they have to make a run for it...Zoe doesn't make it to the ship in time and everyone thinks Zoe has been killed...flash forward, Kaylee (after realizing she and simon are NOT meant for each other) comforts Wash and something develops between them...then..a few months down the road...

BAM!

Zoe shows back up.

Now, for all of you still boo-hooing the Kaylee/Wash union, put aside your feelings for the Zoe/Wash marriage and tell me you WOULDN'T tune in to see what happened.

Exactly..and that folks, is what makes television, and any fictiongreat. Conflict. Conflict drives the story foreward..conflict makes you want to tune in every week...in short...conflict IS the story.
After a while the lovey dovey business between Wash and Zoe would get old...people would stop caring (you might think you wouldn't but trust me, you would)
You need to hit people in the stomach and make them come back for more.

Plus, think about it. You think it was an accident Joss picked up with them already a few years into the marriage? Nope..I guarantee you he was going to split them up....Zoe wants a child...Wash doesn't. Now that argument right there has already split up real life marriages...you think it wouldn't split them up? Plus..I don't see Joss as bringing a child into the show...

Why?

If he did it could mean two possibilites:

1)He would have to get rid of Zoe/Wash so they could go and raise their child, and Joss certainly wouldn't dump those two from the show.

2)They would have the baby and the crew would have to take care of it. Not gonna happen. Why? Because, first it would limit the kind of stories Joss could tell and would provide an unecessary distraction. Second, they already have a child-like being on the ship in the form of River..someone the rest of the crew have to look out for (to a degree). Adding a child would turn Firefly into some sad Brady Bunch space western which would NOT work out well for anyone.

So, while there are those on this board who will argue with me till their hands turn blue, I stick by my guns: had Firefly continued you WOULD have seen Kaylee/Wash together at some point in the future.

Just my thoughts of course. Great thread btw.





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