best pair
POSTED BY: sanmi
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 4, 2004 05:43
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i was just wondering what do you think is the best pair romantic in the like, for me its mal and kaylee and or kaylee and jane yep forbidded is for me the ones that you know that will never happen but hope that it will last forever and plus it has a sweet innocent with harden crimnal with a soft heart.
so what is your favrite?
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Sanmi:
I'm not sure I understand the question correctly, but if you're asking for "Odd Couples", like which two unlikelies would make the strangest, yet still believable pair?
I actually toyed with the idea that Kaylee and Simon might not eventually work out. I think it's highly possible that Kaylee and Simon would engage in a love affair (sounds more romantic than 'hook up', n'est-ce pas?), but that their love affair might be doomed. When all the show's plotlines are ultimately done, many years from now (zoid prays most fervently for Firefly's return to TV), Simon will have a choice to make. He will either settle on a Border World, where he is an alien, or he will return to the Core, where Kaylee is a misfit in high society.
This is not to say that their love could not withstand the test (I think they'll make it). But it could also be logically written that they break up, because they are from different worlds. Which opens the door for... (drum roll, please)...
Jayne and Kaylee.
These characters come from similar, hard-bitten, rustic backgrounds. Jayne represents testosterone run amok; but he does have a (somewhat stunted) decent and softer side,and he has an apparent appetite for the opposite sex. Kaylee, on the other hand, has the feminine characteristics Jayne lacks. She's caring, nurturing and sunny, and she has an apparent appetite for the opposite sex. I believe -- after the initial romantic shock of Kaylee and Simon's breakup -- this pair may be the best suited to one another of any two characters on the ship. And wouldn't it be fun watching Kaylee turn Jayne into a proper sort of man, and Jayne having something other than his guns to love? I think most of us would like to see Jayne find something to care about enough to risk his life for it. Seeing him transformed into a serious character, who nonetheless struggles with the proper behavior Kaylee would require of him, would be great fun. Could you imagine him and Kaylee, dressed up fancy and going to the bal, as in "Shindig"? They might be made fun of at first, but then they'd captivate the crowd with their knowledge of guns and ships. Kinda like Calamity Jane and Wild Bill Hickok wowwing the swells Back East...
My wife, Kayley, made a man of me; if she could do that, then Kaylee shouldn't have too much trouble doing the same for Jayne.
If this is what you had in mind for the thread, Sanmi, then it's a great idea and I'm as interested as you are to read the thoughts of others. If I have misunderstood your intentions, perhaps you could restate the question?
Respectfully,
zoid
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Kaylee and Mal would just be "fweaky" because he is like her Father/Older Brother figure.
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Zoid -
I like your line of reasoning.
Also - remember the scene in Serenity where Jayne is looking in on Kaylee as the doc works on her.
I've always thought that was designed to show that even though Jayne acts like a tough, he did care about her (maybe just a little).
Great post.
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I think one of the most interesting relationships on the show isn't a romantic one but the friendship that's building between Jayne and Book.
They're complete opposites morally, physically and intellectually but you can tell that Jayne is becoming fast friends with the Shepard. They lift weights together, they joke around with one another and even philosophize about monastic matters. Even when Jayne picks on Book there's none of the malace that he has when he picks on the others (except Kaylee) with lines like,"You must be embarassed, all those years of monk training and taken out by one bounty hunter." To me that shows he's comfortable around Book, moreso than anyone except Kaylee.
Now as far as romances go, I'm a little worried about Wash and Zoe. The little bit of jealousy he had for the war buddy thing came through really well in War Stories, but the exchange that got me thinking there could be trouble ahead was the one on Heart of Gold about them having a baby. I think things will work out for them in the end but there's going to be plenty of rocks and shoals for them to get over before it's all done. Strangely enough as far as marital matters go I think Wash is really the steady one, in everything else Zoe is more competent than him (well except flying the ship) but when you see them together he'd definately not just Zoe's Husband, he's Wash and he's married to Zoe. There's something really sweet about those two and I hope they get everything ironed out, even if there are hard times ahead.
As far as Mal and Inara and Kaylee and Simon go I'm pretty sure it'll take a while to come to a resolution either way. The tension between Mal and Inara is just too good to lose by them doing the old hookup routine, anyone remember Moonlighting? Same sort of deal there. And the Kaylee and Simon romance is just too gorram funny to let a resolution happen anytime soon. I mean when my friends and I see the two of them together we rub our hands with glee because you just know Simon is going to do something stupid to ruin it, and make us laugh while doing it. I remember when I showed my mom the series, yeah she's a Browncoat now too, everytime Simon would ruin some moment with Kaylee she'd look over at me and just shake her head saying,"Typical man." We need Simon to be a typical man for a while, for the comdedy gold and for the fact that everyone knows a guy like that, we can relate. We wish him well but we still like to chuckle when we see the big crash coming, even if he doesn't. In a weird way Simon is the George Costanza of Firefly...okay now I am babbling. Time to quit. 
"Pain is scary..."
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Interesting that you mention Jayne and Kaylee... my friend swears that Jayne has a thing for her. I always thought it would be fun to see what would happen to some guy (well, except Simon) if he REALLY broke Kaylee's heart... Mal is protective of her. If she was upset enough, I bet he'd send them halfway into next week.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
We need Simon to be a typical man for a while, for the comdedy gold and for the fact that everyone knows a guy like that, we can relate. We wish him well but we still like to chuckle when we see the big crash coming, even if he doesn't. In a weird way Simon is the George Costanza of Firefly...okay now I am babbling. Time to quit.
"Pain is scary..."
We all know a guy like simon?! Show me to him!
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"Here's to Jayne, the box dropping man-ape-gone-wrong-thing"
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Originally posted by Meneluin:
Interesting that you mention Jayne and Kaylee... my friend swears that Jayne has a thing for her. I always thought it would be fun to see what would happen to some guy (well, except Simon) if he REALLY broke Kaylee's heart... Mal is protective of her. If she was upset enough, I bet he'd send them halfway into next week.
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But then would the guy be waiting to kick Mal's ass on tuesday?
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Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
We need Simon to be a typical man for a while, for the comdedy gold and for the fact that everyone knows a guy like that, we can relate. We wish him well but we still like to chuckle when we see the big crash coming, even if he doesn't. In a weird way Simon is the George Costanza of Firefly...okay now I am babbling. Time to quit.
"Pain is scary..."
We all know a guy like simon?! Show me to him!
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"Here's to Jayne, the box dropping man-ape-gone-wrong-thing"
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Yeah a couple of my best friends are a lot like him, I mean these are relatively attractive guys, make fine money, nice cars, all the things that women look for in a guy but as soon as they approach one...
It ain't pretty. They don't just wind up with their foot in their mouth they wind up with both of them, the table leg and a barstool. They just lock up or say the exact wrong thing at the moment where if they'd just shut up they'd be golden.
Back in college, known some of these guys since then which is scary, I actually used to do prep work for them. You know, go and talk to the lady, talk my friends up, get the womenfolk interested...then they come over and something like,"Ever wonder why toilets in Australia spin backwards?" comes out of their mouth. Or even better,"You look a lot like my sister." Yeah, that's when I back carefully away from the car wreck I know is now in motion...
So yeah, Simonisms aren't as uncommon as people would like to think, at least with the crew I used to run with.
"Pain is scary..."
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I love this thread so far.
I'm totally representing Zoid, I totally think that there's a possibility of Simon and Kaylee not working out. I would love to see them together, because they are SO CUTE, but I have a fanfic running around in my head where they break up because Kaylee's unfaithful with Jayne or something (dodging missiles).
I can just see that happening, but she's like drunk or something. I don't know. I shy away from the idea somewhat because if I couldn't write that true to her character, I'd rather not do it at all. But I think that it could be plausibly done.
That said, I don't see the Mal and Inara working out any time soon. In fact, I think that Joss was just getting started with the two of them. I think they would complete each other in so many beautiful ways.
Here's hoping that we see some major love in the movie!
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