Angel: After the Fall (Spoilers discussed here! BEWARE)

POSTED BY: embers
UPDATED: Thursday, March 20, 2008 05:51
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BSCPANTHERFAN

Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:49 AM

I did! I was waiting for someone to call him, "that bloke with the baby seal breath".

So far it appears that they are going in a VERY different direction with the gang. I am anxious to see if they do any crossovers.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

EMBERS

Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:27 PM

From what I've gathered there are no cross-overs planned because both story-lines have been plotted and contain their own complicated arc....
but that cross-overs CAN happen if it becomes too irresistible (ie Joss has the power to do what he wants: Dark Horse and IDW wouldn't give him a hard time if a character did wander into the other's realm)

I was pretty thrilled to see that the loan shark had gotten out of Sunnydale before it became a crater, and moved down to LA just in time for it to be sucked into Hell....

In fact I would go for a spin off comic telling us what the Shark has been up to, and if he knows Betta George.... hmmmm

The revelation about Angel REALLY blew my mind...
and when you add Gunn's tragic situation (and how scary he has become), this comic has really gotten my on the edge of my seat!

Yeah, waiting a month is hard, but I am definitely having fun with this

SIMONWHO

Monday, January 21, 2008 1:14 AM

Enjoying it so far and it's nice to see while there is a lot of bad blood around, they've also changed Connor and Angel's relationship to a more positive one, especially after the season finale.

Of course, the final panel of issue 3 is a heck of a way to reveal a prophecy fulfilled, no?

WTE

Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:09 PM

The last page of three literally took my breath away. God, I haven't been surprised like that since Serenity. It just reminded me how much I miss having Joss on TV, because--and I know this was Lynch's idea, so major props to him--nothing on TV has shocked me the way Buffy/Angel used to since. It was so nice to have that feeling once again.

HONKS

EMBERS

Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by WTE:
The last page of three literally took my breath away. God, I haven't been surprised like that since Serenity.

yeah, I was really stunned, I didn't see this coming at all
(I'm so glad I was unspoiled)

Everyone else from the team is experiencing their worst nightmare,
while Angel gets his greatest wish, at the worst possible time!
This is really exciting, creating all kinds of tension and conflict.
I am VERY excited about this comic book series!

GROOSALUGG

Monday, January 28, 2008 7:38 AM

If you go perusing some of the forums at various sites, everyone seems so convinced that that line means he's now human. After a week of thinking it over, I'm not so sure, and wouldn't be surprised to find there's some other twist we're not expecting.

I can only come up with two ways the 'human' angle works. 1) The Shanshu prophecy... except he signed that away in NFA. I always thought that was kinda weird, that you could sign away a prophecy as tho it were a simple contract, but if we accept that scene at face-value, then the Shanshu is out. And 2) The Senior Partners did it to him as punishment for taking down the Black Thorn. Except why would they punish him by giving him the very thing he'd spent five years fighting for? Unless they included a bonus free gift along with the new humanity, like syphilis or liver cancer...

EMBERS

Monday, January 28, 2008 7:51 AM

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Originally posted by Groosalugg:

I can only come up with two ways the 'human' angle works. 1) The Shanshu prophecy... except he signed that away in NFA. I always thought that was kinda weird, that you could sign away a prophecy as tho it were a simple contract, but if we accept that scene at face-value, then the Shanshu is out.

Well someone at Whedonesque mentioned that it WAS weird that anyone in the Black Thorne had the power to do anything to make Angel sign away a prophecy of a gift that would come from The Powers That Be.... so maybe that whole contract was bogus to begin with, and was just done to test Angel....

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2) The Senior Partners did it to him as punishment for taking down the Black Thorn. Except why would they punish him by giving him the very thing he'd spent five years fighting for?

Because there is often nothing worse than getting what you wish for!
Angel's dearest wish was to be human, but he rejected it back in his first season because it kept him from being strong enough to fight with Buffy and fulfill his need to do good....
and here he is in Hell, sending ALL his friends to hell, even his own son, back to hell...
And NOW he's human? Now he really needs to be strong as possible....

But of course I don't know... As you pointed out, Brian Lynch didn't say human. We'll have to wait and see!

WTE

Monday, January 28, 2008 6:21 PM

In the latest podcast Q&A session, Brian Lynch referred to Angel as human a couple times, I believe. Could've been a classic misdirect, I suppose, but he also said this was the idea he emailed Joss with and expected to get a, "You're an idiot" reply, but was instead met with major enthusiasm.

I'm thinking it's Shanshu, and the signing-it-away stuff was just a test from the Black Thorn, counting on Angel's not knowing that you can't sign away a prophecy.

HONKS

HOSTILE17NOW

Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:38 AM

He signed his name as ANGEL "But!" Thats not his real name! LIAM is his real name! therefore makeing the contract invalid.

www.myspace.com/hostilebrowncoat

GROOSALUGG

Monday, March 10, 2008 8:36 PM

So, I finally got my copy of ATF #4 today. Can you believe they brought back Groo? What the hell? Who wanted to see that freak again?

Anyway, while that was great, the rest of the issue was fairly average, IMO, much like issue #2. A lot of exposition and setting things up, but not much actually happening. Hopefully #5 will get back to the awesomeness of #1 and #3...

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