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I have watched and wept for joy.

POSTED BY: NervousPete
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 19:36
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Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:15 PM

Yeah, you should post that hour's-worth of writing you withheld; I can never read too much raving about my show.

I agree with all you said. Sage is among my top-three favorite episodes, along with Out Of Gas and Objects In Space. That's partly because Simon is my favorite character, and this episode focuses a lot on him (OIS is similar). Having a younger sister, I can relate to Simon's plight. I love his involvement with Kaylee; I've never cared more about a fictional relationship than I do about his and hers.

If you haven't yet seen them, I recommend you watch Joss Whedon's other shows, Buffy and Angel. The first seasons of both are a little weak, but they are my second- and third-favorite shows, no contest. Both make use of the same deep, imperfect, evolving characters as on Firefly.

Anyways, glad you enjoyed my show.
-Steve

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JRC
Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:58 PM

From Blazing Saddles, after a pep talk, the immortal words of Slim Pickens' character to Harvey Korman's character,
"You use your tongue prettier than a $20 whore."
Excellent review.

Everyone dies alone.

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 8:03 PM

NervousPete, wow that was a damn good review there and pretty much summed up how I feel about the show too.

The one thing that a friend of mine commented on, and I agree with 110% when I was showing him the DVDs; it was the first time he heard of Firefly, 2 weekends ago he watched the first 3 episodes then his wife made him go home, last weekend he wanted to watch the rest, so we did, it was a looooong but good night of quality TV viewing there. Where was I? Oh yeah the comment, gonna seperate it out from the ramblings because it's so true...

The thing that seperates Firefly's cast from most TV and even most movie casts is the whole thing could be silent and they could tell the story just with their eyes and facial expressions.

I had to agree with him on that one. Sometimes you find things with great writing, sometimes things with great acting, and sometimes you find things that get inside your head and make you think. Firefly has all of that in spades.



"Pain is scary..."

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 9:14 PM

Just wait until you watch Out of Gas, your love for this Show will grow even more. It is one of my favorites and even makes full-grown testosterone driven men choke up a little bit.

Thank you so much for summing all that up so beautifully! Welcome to our Browncoat ranks!

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"Here's to Jayne, the box dropping man-ape-gone-wrong-thing"
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Sunday, April 25, 2004 9:19 PM

Very well put! With your permission I'd like to reprint your comments in the conversion stories section at www.serenitymovie.net

Do I have your permission?

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 9:43 PM


You certainly do have my permission, Jaysedai! And thank you all for the lovely words you have given my burblings. I'm really thrilled to be here, you all seem like such intelligent, funky skillo people. I sometimes perilously disagree with some of your politics, but one thing I cannot fault any of you on, Democrat - Republican - In Between - Anarcho-Syndicalist, is your superb taste! And the fact that you actually seem to listen to others, and talk with politeness and respect, humour and warmth... and generally good grammer and spelling. I know I have found a home and shiny new brown coat.

I think I wept for joy when a poster in another thread cited me and my post about the British people purging themselves, stating that he felt the British had done just that with the amazing Firefly sales figures over here, and the enthusiasm we have for it. Thank you Mr Thingymabob. And thank you Prisoner fan tormented by being unable to remember its title. I'm glad to have helped you, and point to the fact that all dvds are available at Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk. It is intelligent, buy it. BUY IT. And Ultraviolet.

And now I shamefully sit back and beg you to tell me how great I am some more, almost as if I secretly desire you to erect a statue of me and make up a folk song about my... erm... pithy reviews. Yes! Folk Song Me!

Pete

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:52 PM

Hey,
As another "The Prisoner" and "Homicide" fan, I concur that Firefly is the only series to blow me away in many years [I'm old, and have been sniffing at TV since 1958].

The cool part (for me, anyway), is that after watching the DVDs several times over several months, putting them aside and going on with my life - I still love the series, the characters, and the people here on the web site. I still feel as excited by this bit of "mass market entertainment" now as I did when I watched it the first time. When something tugs that hard at your heartstrings then there must be a lot of very deep, mythic, and psyche-altering story-telling going on in all those episodes that we will all love again and again as the years go by.

I really hope that Joss tells a good mythic story when the movie comes out, so that everyone who missed Firefly the first time round gets on the bandwagon headed for the next big shindig!

Thanks for your very impassioned review - it was wonderful to read!

Regards,
-Ocelot Wreak.


"I figure you're here 'cause you need some whacko who's willing to stick his finger in the fan. So who are we helping?" - Mickey K., in 'The Equalizer'

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:25 PM

Them some shiny words, Pete!

My story is similar to yours; Firefly is my new love, too! I really appreciate your post. I'm so new to this (and any other) fan site that I had no idea how useful your post could be in promoting our show and the BDM. I hope you will share these words in all of the venues that others suggest.

Please post more after you have viewed the rest and let us know what you think of the other eps. My favorite is Objects in Space, and I think Out of Gas is the "best", but I love them all.

You will find that the episodes continue to increase in quality, which seems so unbelievable that I belive watching them in long sittings might be dangerous.

Quote:

In the moments of transition, the long silent struggle between episodes, I doubt a half-hour has passed where I have not thought about Firefly.


I know that it took me two weeks to come out of the spell (during which I, too, literally thought about Firefly every half hour -- found fan fic and tried to extend my experience, to no avail). I wept first for joy, then in anguish because I had loaned the DVD's to a friend, so I was also in some type of horrible withdrawl. My friend has nearly erected a statue to my husband, and thinks we should do something special for him because they are his DVDs.

Anyway, since I am longwinded, but no where near as eloquent as you, I say, welcome, even while I am still feeling my way around and becoming part of this web.

Please post more of your thoughts and you will get all the praise singing you desire and more.

insight spinner
__________

Just an object. It doesn't mean what you think....

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:54 PM

I was meaning to post on the Brit apology thread too, just never got around to it. No need to apologise for being a Brit and unleashing reality TV on us, I've had plenty of friends from the UK, all portions and points of view, they're all shiny folks. And they all hate reality TV too.

I watched the Prisioner too, although that was after being introduced to it from the Iron Maiden song of the same name. No need to appologise for Maiden either.

Other TV things we can thank the Brits for:

Blackadder, which held the highest place of honor in my DVD collection until Firefly came out. Still I think in that company a respectable 2nd isn't anything to sniff at.

Also loved 'Allo 'Allo and Father Ted. Was really choked up to hear that the actor that played him had died, which was why there wasn't another season of it. But what there is is top notch, nearly wet myself several times watching that show.

Ultraviolet looked very cool as well, I saw one episode when it was on Sci-Fi but missed the rest, gonna have to pick that one up on DVD too I think. And Dog Soldiers was a great movie, looking to get my hands on the full British version instead of the Sci-Fi one I taped.

So all in all, don't appologise for anything.

Well, maybe haggis and kilts, but hey I'm half Scots so I guess that's my fault too.


"Pain is scary..."

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Monday, April 26, 2004 12:03 AM


I have just watched another episode.

"Out of Gas"

*Contains spoilers for new bugs*

Oh my! Wow! Arguably the best single television episode of the last decade. The ending did bring tears to my eyes, you all were right! So many fine moments and a superb way of letting us know how the crew met. Catching Kaylee in the act of sexual congress... ha! That's surely Jos's way of saying... "Aw, isn't she sweet. Just like Willow, you are right my friend. Aw. What's she doing now? Oh, she's screaming an orgasm in the engine room, being 'serviced' by some long haired incidental character. Aw! How cute, eh? MUAH HA HA!" ... whilst, bizarrely, not at all contradicting or betraying her character, only strengthening it.

Seriously, is Jos some sort of God? Is he? More importantly, does he have two 's's in his name? I forget.

The tension was nigh-on unbearable, would have been were it not for the perfectly placed flashbacks. Beautifully done, and each character is remembered in the right spot. Kaylee in the engine room, Wash in the cockpit, Ienora (I shall continue to comically misspell her name until I have watched all episodes and learn, I promise) in her shuttle and Jayne down and dirty outside. Their lives as inextricably linked to Serenity as Mal's is. Which is as much why they came back as their love for Mal.

And such beautiful acting! Ron Glass didn't leap out at me at first. I thought he was a good actor from the beginning but I didn't really notice him. I call it 'the Morgan Freeman curse'. A great actor whom you just become too used to because such seasoned, dignified looking black actors are cast as seasoned, dignified characters. But seeing Book with his bible and his pain and fear for the coming end... wow. Good work Ron! You have fully won me over.

Wash I enjoyed from the start, but in a superficial early Buffy 'Xander wisecracks' sort of way. Y'know, ha ha! Say something funny again Wash! But in this his frustration, fear and love were amazing. And I loved his expression giving blood in the med-room. Can't describe it.

Anyone notice that whenever anyone is in the med-room, and people are watching over them, Kaylee is always seen by the patient first: through the same window at the same angle in the same spot? It is her 'vigil crate.'

Another reason for you lot to watch it, then.

And the moment the explosion hits, amazing effects that you don't notice as amazing effects simply because you are thinking... "NO! This cannot happen! It's Simon's birthday... and... and... Serenity! Serenity can't be hurt! No! Zoe! Fire everywhere! Man, I hope they're okay!" Compare this to the exponetially bigger budgeted Attack of the Clones, where I was so emotionally engaged by the story and the use of effects that at one point I thought, "Hmm, nice use of lighting."

But that ending, eh? Really is the stuff of legend. It did make me cry, I'm not ashamed to admit that.

Damn this show is good, and that episode was flawless.




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