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War Stories : Why Go Back?

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:55 AM

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Originally posted by whitesilence:
The Skyplex and Niska's space station are two separate locations.





?????
Please explain.

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:14 AM

From http://www.fireflywiki.org:
Sky Plex - A space station that has optimized a large portion of it's habitable space for client services such as shopping, entertainment, and so forth.

I interpreted BULLET0IN0THE0BRAINPAN0SQUISH's question to mean that they thought Niska's home in the sky and the skyplex visited by Serenity's crew in 'The Message' were one and the same. They are clearly not.

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:38 AM

The Space Bazaar where Serenity gets it's Post in The Message is not Niska's Skyplex, agreed.

The Skyplex Niska meets them on in The Train Job and the Skyplex where Niska kills Mal in War Stories are the same Skyplex, correct? If so, in both instances it is orbiting Ezra.

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by whitesilence:

The Skyplex and Niska's space station are two separate locations.



I'm confused. No wait, I think maybe you're confused. :)

Does that (large) space station in The Message even have a name? I 'sppose you could call it a skyplex too. But the skyplex that's referenced in the shooting script belongs to Niska, and orbits Ezra. Also, there's no evidence of any kind says it's anything but stationary. Men like Niska don't go about their merry, irresponsibly hopping around the 'Verse, but instead establish defendable, predictable strongholds -- makes his presence known and solid. :)


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Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:
Quote:

Originally posted by whitesilence:

The Skyplex and Niska's space station are two separate locations.



I'm confused. No wait, I think maybe you're confused. :)

Does that (large) space station in The Message even have a name?
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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam



The script states it is a Space Bazaar.

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Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:19 PM

I would assume they're the same skyplex. The the physical structure as well as Niska's office appear to be the same in both episodes.

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Friday, January 11, 2008 6:56 AM

In The Train Job, the script specifies the location as Niska's Skyplex.
In War Stories, the script specifies the location as Niska's Skyplex.
In The Message, the script specifies the location as Space Bazaar.

Why would these be assumed to be the same place? Since wiki is reknowned for it's inaccuracies and false data, try not to use that as a source, particularly when Joss says different.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:29 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Everytime I watch this episode I can't help but to ask WHY did they go back anywhere near Niska's station? They had already unloaded most of the loot from the hospital job on Ariel, just had a small box of medical supplies left...so why go somewhere where Niska could find them?

Also......what happens to the station after the crew wound or kill all of Niska's men and send Niska on the run? Does he still own and operate it after Mal and Serenity leave?



A thought has occurred to me, from a different perspective.
Did Inara schedule the Councilor as client before or after Mal decided to sell the meds to Bolles?
This is the last of the dropoffs, they have been selling the take for a while now.
Perhaps we have assumed that Mal made the decision to sell on Ezra, and Inara maganed to get a client there.
However, Inara has been hassling Mal about not getting clients, and maybe Mal let her request for destination Ezra go because he wanted to let her work. Then the trip to Ezra was for Inara, and selling to Bolles just coincided.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:23 AM

Also, in the wake of this Spitze3r call girl thing, another thought occurs.
In the mentioned unaired scenes at the Counselor's home, there is no impressive deference to the great honor of having a Registered Companion present. No reservations for Distinguished Guest. Inara is seemingly treated as a common call girl or escort, not as an exhalted Registered Companion, of High Social Standing.
The Councilor seems to be highly offended at the presence of Inara, and Inara also pretends to be on other business (sounds like she is a lawyer/solicitor) to decieve the husband from understanding she is an R.C.
Does this strike anybody else funny?
The "advanced sexual maturity" of this verse that Joss talks about seems absent.

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Tuesday, April 1, 2008 12:55 PM

The Inara/Councilor scene makes sense if you consider that the Councilor is obviously not telling her husband everything about herself! (And the 'solicitor' line would seem to be about political petitoning, rather than law.) Companions might be High Status, but not necessarily house-guests. Plus Inara doesn't seem to have announced herself as such.

I think it draws on that idea that people cannot always be themselves entirely, and this would seem particularly true in politics.

I also think Inara is beginning to realise the difference between being a Companion in the Core, and being outside that envelope.

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