Chinese for the RP Player
POSTED BY: Channain
UPDATED: Friday, May 27, 2005 17:34
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I doubt it, only if every Chinese speaker died off and all of the first year Chinese lesson books were lost, then subsequently Chinese was retaught but using only an English->Chinese dictionary as an aid.
It's likely an oversight and someone on the script team just grabbed a dictionary or something... it's not something that a first year Chinese student could miss.
then again, even English speakers (in the US) no longer seem to care to distinguish the differences between could, would, and should...
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Originally posted by Channain:Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
I am skeptical of this particular one...
wo nén qin ni tiào wu ma...? = may I have the pleasure...(of this dance)?
Ké yi is probably a better choice. But I don't think a Chinese person would say that as it doesn't have the same sense of florish as the English phrase does...
Thanks Jasonzzz - could this possibly be the product of the Chinese/American blending that's supposed to have gone on prior to the time that Firefly takes place?
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz
then again, even English speakers (in the US) no longer seem to care to distinguish the differences between could, would, and should...
True. I'm glad someone else has noticed.So the revision (if one were made) would be:
"wo ké yi qin ni tiào wu ma"
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您喜欢跟我跳舞吗?
Nîn xîhuan1 gen1 wo3 tiao4 wu ma?
is a better approach to the same feeling of
the same phrase in English "May I have the pleasure of this dance..."
translated more or less "Would you prefer/entertain (the idea of) dancing with me?"
The Nin would be important as the gentleman would be attempting to be cordial...
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz
then again, even English speakers (in the US) no longer seem to care to distinguish the differences between could, would, and should...
So the revision (if one were made) would be:
"wo ké yi qin ni tiào wu ma"
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Quote:Shiny! Problem is, though, some of the phonetics are confusing the site. Could you re-write accordingly?
Originally posted by Jasonzzz
Nîn xîhuan1 gen1 wo3 tiao4 wu ma?
is a better approach to the same feeling of
the same phrase in English "May I have the pleasure of this dance..."
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Sorry, I don't have the fonts for generating the proper tonemarks along with the pinyin... But these are the correct pinyin "spelling"...
Nin3 xi3huan1 gen1 wo3 tiao4 wu ma?
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Nin xi huan gen wo tiao wu ma?
well, in true Browncoat fashion, we'll work with what we can.
Thanks for your help!!
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I moved this over here - seemed more appropos -
Quote:That's very RP-like material. Only the spelling came through with "1s" in place of the appropriate grammatical symbols.
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
The equivalent of "bottom's up" in Chinese is
"Gan1 Bei1" - literally means "Dry Cup" or "Dry Glass". The usual ritual is to say the phrase while hoisting the vessel with both hands, then draining the cup of its contents with one large gulp or as few gulps as possible. About the same as what you might expect.
Is it "Gan Bei" as in "gAHn bay?"
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Originally posted by Channain:
I moved this over here - seemed more appropos -Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
The equivalent of "bottom's up" in Chinese is
"Gan1 Bei1" - literally means "Dry Cup" or "Dry Glass". The usual ritual is to say the phrase while hoisting the vessel with both hands, then draining the cup of its contents with one large gulp or as few gulps as possible. About the same as what you might expect.
That's very RP-like material. Only the spelling came through with "1s" in place of the appropriate grammatical symbols.
Is it "Gan Bei" as in "gAHn bay?"
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The chinese characters are:
乾杯
the spelling I sent over are the correct spelling using the pinyin system. I couldn't find the equivalent tonal marks available in the regular fonts that I was using here for the first tone, it is acceptable to put the equivalent tone numbers next to each pinyin spelling. So, Gan1 Bei1 is GānBēi are both correct.
Here's a bunch of chars to use for the
correct tonal marks...
ā á ă à
ē é ĕ è
ī í ĭ ì
ō ó ŏ ò
ū ú ŭ ù
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Quote:Now this may be my problem, or it may be FFF.net, but some of those characters are coming through as tiny little boxes. For my own use, and for our viewers at home, is there any advice on what can be done to correct this?
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
The spelling I sent over are the correct spelling using the pinyin system. I couldn't find the equivalent tonal marks available in the regular fonts that I was using here for the first tone, it is acceptable to put the equivalent tone numbers next to each pinyin spelling. So, Gan1 Bei1 is GānBēi are both correct.
Here's a bunch of chars to use for the
correct tonal marks...
ā á ă à
ē é ĕ è
ī í ĭ ì
ō ó ŏ ò
ū ú ŭ ù
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Nice work.
That'll be useful with my upcoming fanfic too 
Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so... very... pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."
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