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something ain't right about shindig

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Tuesday, January 1, 2008 7:09 AM

forget the site i got my version of the scripts from, but it says dayton. :P

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Tuesday, January 1, 2008 7:12 AM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:
forget the site i got my version of the scripts from, but it says dayton. :P

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I'd be interested in seeing other versions of scripts. If you recall or find the site, please post a linky.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2008 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:

I'm pretty sure it was "dayton" cuz you have to factor in the cauchney (sp?) accent they kinda pronounce their 'a's like 'i's.



Well, you'd have to talk to someone well 'versed in American history -- 'someone', not me -- but I believe Ohio history knows a "Dayton colony", founded serveral years (in 1806, far as I can tell) after the American Revolutionary War, and home of early pioneer families. In other words: a perfect name to name your own colony after when you were settling on a new planet. :) Also, Ohio is very hilly, right? Maybe River's "Sad little King of a sad little hill." is hinting to that (of course, Badger's Dayton colony would not necessarily have any hillside to speak of, but the hint could just be meant for us).

Futhermore, I find your theory very plausible: that the cockney pronunciation of "Dayton" is "Die-tun", and as such, erroneously, gave rise to "Dyton" (or "Titan", as the idiot subtitle team produced).

Or it really could be "Dyton". :) Joss, feel free to set us free.


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Wednesday, January 2, 2008 1:14 AM

thanks for the input asarian ^_^

jewel: i have 'em saved on my computer (in the process of making them more easily readable by eliminating unnecessary space between lines and reformatting the paragraph margins) if you want 'em.

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Wednesday, January 2, 2008 1:15 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:
"Sad little King of a saddle little hill."



It was "Sad little king of a sad little hill"; not trying to be rude or anything, just pointing that out. It just sounds a bit like "saddle" because of the accent.

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Wednesday, January 2, 2008 2:30 AM

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Originally posted by RiverFlan:

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Originally posted by asarian:
"Sad little King of a saddle little hill."



It was "Sad little king of a sad little hill"; not trying to be rude or anything, just pointing that out. It just sounds a bit like "saddle" because of the accent.



LOL. No, that was just my brain being fried, apparently contracting "sad" and "little" as I was writing. :)


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Wednesday, January 2, 2008 2:41 AM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:

um ok, apparently in the Firefly subtitles it DOES say "Titan"



Subtitles, smubtitles. :) I turned subtitles on today, just for fun, and it was hilarious. They have Inara live on "Zenon" (instead of Sihnon); Zoe says "Shining" (instead of Shiny), etc. In short: never trust subtitles to have anything right. :)


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Wednesday, January 2, 2008 3:18 AM

lol, true statement.

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Sunday, January 6, 2008 2:52 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:

And you are right to point it out! :) I had forgotten all about it. In OoG, Mal indeed says:

"Seems a fresh warrant for your arrest come up on the cortex. Had your birth date attached right to it."

And, come to think of it, Harken said:

"Alliance property, too. You could lose your ship, Captain. But that's a wrist slap compared to the penalty for harboring fugitives. A brother and sister. When I search this vessel, I won't find them, will I?"

It is, of course, not all that bewildering that Commander Harken knows about the two, but, by pointing out a penalty, he DOES seem to indicate that Mal ought to know they are fugitives, too (through public channels).



Warrant wouldn't necessarily include a picture. When they talk about this warrant, I'm thinking they mean an ACTUAL warrant; a legal document, not a wanted poster. (This would back up Book's statements in the BDM. You need a warrant in order to get the attention of local law enforcement, which is still your best shot for catching them, but you don't want to flash pictures around for every citizen to see; they don't WANT just "anybody" finding her.)

As for Harken's statements, I've always felt strongly that he is bluffing Mal hard in that scene, or trying to, at least. He doesn't know anything, except their ages ("Siblings. Adult siblings."), and he knows he doesn't know anything, but he doesn't want Mal to know he doesn't know anything. I don't think we can wisely assume based on his statements that he believes Mal should know they are fugitives, Harken is just trying to scare Mal into giving something up. In fact, the idea that Harken's next statements are to offer Mal an "out," by claiming that the Tams were stowaways, might show that he believes knowledge of their fugitive status is not that widespread. (Not that he would have given this clemency to Mal, but lack of general knowledge of the Tam's delinquincy might explain why Harken thought he could get away with that deception.)

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Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:33 AM

good point about the warrants, never thought about that before.

Mal's too smart not to see through his bluffing ;)

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