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There is no such thing as science fiction in movies and TV

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UPDATED: Monday, December 31, 2007 16:00
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Monday, December 31, 2007 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:

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Originally posted by embers:

So in Out of Gas is must have just driven you crazy that the gravity didn't go out on Serenity, huh?


I know it's already been pointed out, but would somebody somewhere explain to me why the gravity not going out is any more problematic than the the fact the lights didn't go out? They were without an engine and without life support. To our knowledge neither of those things is in any way related to the gravity so there is no logical reason I can think of to believe that that the gravity should have gone out. In spite of that many if not most here seem to think the gravity should have gone out.



Gravity, strange as it sounds, almost seems like a trivial matter in the 'Verse. Could be as simple as electrically fueled gravity mats sewn into the hull, or some such. Well, whatever causes gravity to exert itself, little energy for it seems required. At least I think we can be pretty much certain gravity is not generated by some sort of spinning ring, or a huge, artificially created mass with astroniomically high power needs. There's still electrical power on the boat, so, within the assumption that artificial gravity is a pretty 'low-key' function in their day, I see no reason why gravity would have to fail.

Life-support, however, is a different matter. Like the man said,

"Engine don't turn, life support won't function, we don't breathe."

Well, it wouldn't necessarily be my design, lol, but on cheaper model ship it makes sense to connect any kind of venting system directly to the rotation of the engine (like is often done in cars). This design, of course, like life-support, is based on the assumption that the wheel never stops turning. :) Which is why I would design it a mite different my own self (like I would run it probably off a separate generator). But way it is is the way it is: catalyzer's broke, and they're up shit-creek without air.


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Monday, December 31, 2007 2:05 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:
Life-support, however, is a different matter. Like the man said,

"Engine don't turn, life support won't function, we don't breathe."

Well, it wouldn't necessarily be my design, lol, but on cheaper model ship it makes sense to connect any kind of venting system directly to the rotation of the engine (like is often done in cars). This design, of course, like life-support, is based on the assumption that the wheel never stops turning. :) Which is why I would design it a mite different my own self (like I would run it probably off a separate generator). But way it is is the way it is: catalyzer's broke, and they're up shit-creek without air.


I don't think the design was quite as nearsighted as you make out.

There was, apparently, a back up life support system meant to ensure they would breathe even if the engine didn't turn. The fact that it wasn't an explosion proof back up life support system, and would appear to have been harder to fix than the engine itself (since Kaylee wrote it off well before she determined the engine couldn't be fixed) doesn't make it an ideal back up, but it did exist.

The implication is that whoever designed the Firefly class vessel recognized that the engine might not always turn and did set up life support on a separate generator, just in case. They just didn't do it with main life support, but they did do it.

[Edited and Added:] It seems that the more sleep I miss the less correct and more phonetic my spelling becomes. I apologize if I've left any such mistakes in as I know some people here hate it when people use a homophone instead of the correct spelling.

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Monday, December 31, 2007 6:26 AM

I always thought it goofy that Joss is writing a scifi verse with things that do not yet exist, but considers mind-reading, psychics, precognition to be "fantasy" although already proven in our current time.

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Monday, December 31, 2007 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:

There was, apparently, a back up life support system meant to ensure they would breathe even if the engine didn't turn. The fact that it wasn't an explosion proof back up life support system, and would appear to have been harder to fix than the engine itself (since Kaylee wrote it off well before she determined the engine couldn't be fixed) doesn't make it an ideal back up, but it did exist.

The implication is that whoever designed the Firefly class vessel recognized that the engine might not always turn and did set up life support on a separate generator, just in case. They just didn't do it with main life support, but they did do it.



Well, Mal does mention having the auxilliary life-support system, but Kaylee says: "No. We don't. It ain't even on. Explosion musta knocked it out." So I guess you're right. :)


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Monday, December 31, 2007 4:00 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I always thought it goofy that Joss is writing a scifi verse with things that do not yet exist, but considers mind-reading, psychics, precognition to be "fantasy" although already proven in our current time.

Oh yeah - I just saw that article in Science magazine...

*scratches head*



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