More Subtle yet interesting show observations - post yours
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In BDM, why did the Rescue and Research craft crash, but Firefly didn't? I know they said the people weren't there to guide them in, but wouldn't a Rescue craft be capable of landing without assistance or guidance.
Maybe this is just an example of how retro-nimble the Firefly is, ideally suited for smuggling ans such, and the high-falutin newer ships can't really do much. But, still wierd for a rescue and research ship.
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Quote:I don't think that's her past. In "Out of Gas" when she first meets Mal, she said that she worked for her father who hadn't had a lot of work recently. That, her accent, and lack of knowledge of high-class etiquette allude to a working-class family background.
Originally posted by Shepardbookem:
Kaylee has, in some ways, the most mysterious past... compared to the others whose story is more upfront (except Book, and they have a curious connection).
One possible hint?
I have puzzled on the introduction given to she and the captain on entering the "Shindig" - "Kaywinnet Lee Frye,and escort" kinda sounds like someone with "standing" (accompanied by someone without). Maybe running from being the misfit tom-girl of a well-to-do family?
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End of OMR, talking about Saffron, Inara says "don't play a player". It sounds so...90's, as in 20th century.
Mal has said "we're in space, it's always dark" and the theme refers to space as "the black". However, in fact, this is a solar system with these dozen planets and hundreds of moons, all getting night and day from their sun. So the ONLY time you're in the black/dark is when you land on the shadow side of a world. When out of atmo, yo're always in the deathly, blindingly, bright sunlight which you need heavy-duty filters/shields to keep you from getting crispy. Unless you always fly in the shadow of some body between you and the sun, which would be difficult and cumbersome. Likewise, when the script says "day" it does not refer to a calendar/time component, it only refers to which side of the planet you landed on when you entered fro space - the shadow side or the lit side.
I do like the theme and it's implications, but realistically "the black" doesn't make sense for being in space.
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Hmm, I wonder, did Badger serve in the War? Thing of it is, namely, in War Stories we see Badger eat an apple... with a knife! Just like Mal and Zoe do. Something to do with pressure grenades, and all. So, that makes me wonder whether maybe Badger was in the war too.
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Originally posted by asarian:
Hmm, I wonder, did Badger serve in the War? Thing of it is, namely, in War Stories we see Badger eat an apple... with a knife! Just like Mal and Zoe do. Something to do with pressure grenades, and all. So, that makes me wonder whether maybe Badger was in the war too.
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Originally posted by shinyseven2:
Also, I think that looking under the placemats makes sense in case, f'rex, that's where they keep the lever that opens up the Sekrit Fugitive Hiding Room, or the key to the same, or a note that says, "Dear Wash: Hang a left, we have to drop off the fugitives on Boros, signed, Mal."
Reading this thread late, but had to say that's funny! :)
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This 'distress' wouldn't be takin' place in someone's pants, would it?
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Originally posted by Sugarfaerie:
Another thing I noticed during 'Serenity': just after Mal shoots Dobson, you see Zoe pause for a moment and look down at the body before she goes to shut the door. It made me wonder why (Zoe's my favourite character so I tend to concentrate on her the most). Maybe she didn't approve of the way Mal killed Dobson, but felt she couldn't say anything? Hmm...
I think you were just witnessing Joss' astounding attention to detail. :) Zoe is a professional soldier: routinely, she just checks the body to make sure he's really dead (read: no longer a threat).
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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam
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Zoe had debated through the episode about the repercussions of dealing with a Fed in every way. I think she was just throwing out all the threads of options which no longer applied. plus she had to have a reason to delay so that Mal and Jayne would have time to come over to the body, pick it up, and haul it over the ramp, returning just before the doors close on Mal and Jayne. The script says Mal hauled Dobson out on his own - not sure who they had envisioned casting as Mal back then.
Another observation so subtle that I didn't recall that it wasn't even in the show, was in The Train Job, before the scene where Mal awkwardly bows to Inara, where Simon introduces River to Mal. Mal tells her to just call him Mal, and then River & Simon end up explaining to Mal how to bow as a gentleman. This scene is deleted, so when Inara sarcastically implies Mal might be a gentleman and then he awkwardly bows, we have no idea what that was all about. This was the "instructional" scene to set-up the latter, which was a practice widely used in Out of Gas.
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Originally posted by Sugarfaerie:
Another thing I noticed during 'Serenity': just after Mal shoots Dobson, you see Zoe pause for a moment and look down at the body before she goes to shut the door. It made me wonder why (Zoe's my favourite character so I tend to concentrate on her the most). Maybe she didn't approve of the way Mal killed Dobson, but felt she couldn't say anything? Hmm...
I think you were just witnessing Joss' astounding attention to detail. :) Zoe is a professional soldier: routinely, she just checks the body to make sure he's really dead (read: no longer a threat).
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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam
Agreed. But she did say something earlier to Jayne, I believe, that killing a fed would be a really stupid idea. So it could potentially go either way.
I'm continually amazed that the network didn't like the Pilot. It was brilliant, thought-provoking, emotional, intelligent, everything that you need to hook an audience into watching your show. For instance, (since we're talking about Zoe), after Kaylee has been shot, and Simon is threatening to let her die, there were a number of things she could have said. She could have been specifically threatening, like "She dies, and Mal and I will blow you out the airlock ourselves." Instead, she says "If she dies, you'll never make it to the Feds." Which basically implies, what we'll do to you will be far worse than what the Alliance ever could or would. It's such a powerful line, and fantastically delivered.
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"We live in a spaceship, dear." ~Zoe
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