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something ain't right about shindig

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:40 PM

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Originally posted by asarian:

No way info on the Tams would ever appear on a bulletin for Badger to read. Possibly folks are not recalling what Book told Mal:

"No reports broadwaved... no warrants. Much as they want her, they want her hid."

The only ever bulletin for River we see, with photo ID, is in Early's ship. But Early got that bulletin, most like, directly from a military source that sent him out to collect her.



But remember OIS, when it's Simon's b-day, and they know that that day was his b-day because of of something on Simon. Sure, I don't think there was anything on River, but Simon's warrent or whatever it's called was avalible to the general public if the crew on Serenity got it.

I'm not arguing the main point- I'm just throwing this in here. I do agree with the peeps saying that Badger was too stupid to reconize them, and wouldn't be paying attention to them because he wouldn't want to get involved in Alliance stuff.

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by RiverFlan:

Quote:

Originally posted by asarian:

No way info on the Tams would ever appear on a bulletin for Badger to read. Possibly folks are not recalling what Book told Mal:

"No reports broadwaved... no warrants. Much as they want her, they want her hid."

The only ever bulletin for River we see, with photo ID, is in Early's ship. But Early got that bulletin, most like, directly from a military source that sent him out to collect her.



But remember OIS, when it's Simon's b-day, and they know that that day was his b-day because of of something on Simon. Sure, I don't think there was anything on River, but Simon's warrent or whatever it's called was avalible to the general public if the crew on Serenity got it.

I'm not arguing the main point- I'm just throwing this in here. I do agree with the peeps saying that Badger was too stupid to reconize them, and wouldn't be paying attention to them because he wouldn't want to get involved in Alliance stuff.



And you are right to point it out! :) I had forgotten all about it. In OoG, Mal indeed says:

"Seems a fresh warrant for your arrest come up on the cortex. Had your birth date attached right to it."

And, come to think of it, Harken said:

"Alliance property, too. You could lose your ship, Captain. But that's a wrist slap compared to the penalty for harboring fugitives. A brother and sister. When I search this vessel, I won't find them, will I?"

It is, of course, not all that bewildering that Commander Harken knows about the two, but, by pointing out a penalty, he DOES seem to indicate that Mal ought to know they are fugitives, too (through public channels).

As for that cortex thingy, in our world, arrest warrants aren't posted on the Internet, so it's entirely possible Wash/Mal (or Book even?) hacked into a not-so-private part of the cortex. Nothing fancy, really, but just like listening to the police band or some such.

Of course, I remain steadfast in my belief that the details about Simon and River have been kept absolutely classified, and are only accessible to the highest military ranks. But for now we're looking at some fair compelling evidence says at least the warrant for Simon's arrest probably was in the public channels, or at least in the semi-public channels. And that River may be listed as a fugitive as well.

I'll have to do some more thinking about this, RiverFlan. :) Thanks again for bringing your observations to light.


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Sunday, December 30, 2007 4:56 AM

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Originally posted by nbz:
As for where he is from... Dyton Colony. No idea where that is, but I would say NOT on a core world.



I thought it was "Titan Colony". That's what the subtitles say, anyway.

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:42 PM

I'm pretty sure it was "dayton" cuz you have to factor in the cauchney (sp?) accent they kinda pronounce their 'a's like 'i's. And if you look at the script it says dayton colony :-P could be they copied it down wrong, but I'm pretty sure i heard it right. :\

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Monday, December 31, 2007 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:

I'm pretty sure it was "dayton" cuz you have to factor in the cauchney (sp?) accent they kinda pronounce their 'a's like 'i's.



Dayton Colony, for certain. :) Or sometimes spelled "Dyton".


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Monday, December 31, 2007 1:03 AM

why is it spelled Dyton? cuz of the way she says it?

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Monday, December 31, 2007 9:28 AM

Badger was from Dyton (die-ten) colonies. Not surprising the subtitles say different - they are routinely wrong.
Can't recall exactly where it is stated that Dyton is were Badger was from, but the Unified planets are shown on page 12 of the Serenity Offical Companion, and Dyton is there.

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Monday, December 31, 2007 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Can't recall exactly where it is stated that Dyton is were Badger was from, but the Unified planets are shown on page 12 of the Serenity Offical Companion, and Dyton is there.



River says it:

"Don't seem likely I'd tell 'em to you, do it? Anyone off Dayton Colony know's better'n to talk to strangers."


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Monday, December 31, 2007 4:40 PM

um ok, apparently in the Firefly subtitles it DOES say "Titan" but in the transcripts it says "Dayton" and other ppl are saying "Dyton." how can this definitively be solved, cuz frankly, im interested.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2008 6:47 AM

Where does Dayton spelling come from?

The scripts I've seen spell it Dyton:

http://firefly.girven.org/scripts/firefly-106.htm

When hearing "Die-ten" the CCP transcribes it as Titan, just like they make many other mistakes and omissions.

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