400 Scientists Say Gore & Warming Cabal Are Full Of Go Se
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Friday, December 28, 2007 08:56
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Quote:And now you're upset because I wasn't putting words in your mouth, so you can't effectively deamonise me. I'll ask more openly, what were you saying then? When accusing me of putting words in your mouth while making no attempt to make clear what you really meant, the accusation falls quite flat.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And now you’re upset because I won’t let you put words in my mouth. But let’s just cut to the chase.
Quote:My only exception was that not everyone on the left, or who accepts global warming is a religious zealot. But I thought that wasn't what your were trying to say? In which case how could dislike what your were saying? Perhaps it was, or perhaps you're just putting words in my mouth? You obviously do care, you're the one making a big issue out of me asking for clarification.
You don’t like that I criticized the views of a certain group of people with a Left-leaning position. I don’t really care. Let’s move on.
EDITED for clarity
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Quote:I knew that’s where this was all going. I’ve once again been accused of anti-citizenism.
Originally posted by citizen:Quote:And now you're upset because I wasn't putting words in your mouth, so you can't effectively deamonise me. I'll ask more openly, what were you saying then? When accusing me of putting words in your mouth while making no attempt to make clear what you really said, the accusation falls quite flat.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And now you’re upset because I won’t let you put words in my mouth. But let’s just cut to the chase. You don’t like that I criticized the views of a certain group of people with a Left-leaning position. I don’t really care. Let’s move on.
I don’t have the patience for this today. I’ve got a whole meal to cook for Christmas dinner. If you want to believe that I’m trying to demonize you, I’m okay with that. In fact, I’m really starting to warm up to the idea of anti-citizenism. I think it should become world religion.
Quote:That’s a wonderful exception for you to have, but it’s not one you could have with what I wrote. Since I never said everyone on the left or everyone who accepts global warming is a religious realots. Once again, that’s something you came up with.
Originally posted by citizen:
My only exception was that not everyone on the left, or who accepts global warming is a religious zealot.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I knew that’s where this was all going. I’ve once again been accused of anti-citizenism.
I don’t have the patience for this today. I’ve got a whole meal to cook for Christmas dinner. If you want to believe that I’m trying to demonize you, I’m okay with that.
Quote:A reasonable person would have just told me what you were trying to say. An unreasonable and irrational person, well, they'd have done something different.
I'll ask more openly, what were you saying then?
I wasn't accusing you of being "anti-citizen", but feel free to put words in my mouth.
Quote:Except I did, which is why I asked for clarification. It's not my fault if you want to throw a tantrum because you didn't make yourself clear.
That’s a wonderful exception for you to have, but it’s not one you could have with what I wrote. Since I never said everyone on the left or everyone who accepts global warming is a religious realots. Once again, that’s something you came up with.
Quote:That's a real nice way of proving you're the better man Finn. So sweet, I think everyone should hate you too
In fact, I’m really starting to warm up to the idea of anti-citizenism. I think it should become world religion.
.More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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There were an awful lot of physicists, economists, public health professors - one (possibly two) global climatologists.
I think I'll go ask organic synthetic chemistry professors what they think. After all they're scientists as well. 
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There are plenty of organic chemicals that influence the climate. I’m sure he could have some valuable input on the matter.
For that matter, global climate heavily influences the global and local economies, and a great deal of climate is implied from the more measurable influence it has in economics, so economists would have some valuable input as well. There are about ten economist on the list. Hardly a lot by comparison
Public health is certainly an issue of relevance to concept of global warming. The IPCC has a whole chapter on it. It may not be a crucial part of the science of global warming, especially considering how little can be said about the extent to which it is even happening, but then there are only two professors on the list who are even involved in Public Health. Hardly an awful lot.
And since climatology is basically a branch of physics, I’m good with there being a lot of physicist.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Looking around and deciding there's a whole lotta cranky going on.
Could someone please start putting warning labels on these discussions so the unsuspecting don't wander in and inadvertently lose their eyebrows to the flames?
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Well then you might as well say that EVERYTHING out there is bought and paid for by somebody....somebody with an agenda. Where's the truth anymore?
Unfortunately, that IS the truth.
I don't believe any of the shit that I see or hear on TV or the news. Everybody has an agenda and there are always "experts" on either side pushing them. Who are we stupid folk to argue with the "experts"? They're "experts" so they must be infallable, right?
As long as there is money that is worth something, there will always be means to push whatever agenda needs to be pushed and so long as the proles are sufficiently entertained and fed they'll be willing to follow.
BTW... I don't buy the global warming thing anymore than you do. Do I believe that we're the worst thing to ever happen to this planet? You bet.... but I'm not buying any 2012 predictions of the end of the world due to carbon emissions either.
They're all a bunch of assholes on both sides and they're all getting paid more money than I could ever hope to get in my meager life. They make all the rules and those without means have to play by them or get trampled...
Anyways..... I'll see ya'all later. Works wrapping up. I'm going to finish a few things that need finishing for the night, and then I'm going to stroll on out of here and smoke a half a pack of cigarettes, get in my 1978 Ford LTD that gets 9 MPG and drive the 1 mile back to my apartment that I could have walked, then I'm going to drink 6 beers and throw the cans in the trash bin because I'm too lazy to recycle.
Peace
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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Could someone please start putting warning labels on these discussions so the unsuspecting don't wander in and inadvertently lose their eyebrows to the flames?
It's generally accepted that if you go into the RWED you go at your own risk and understand the consequences. Perhaps having every post in RWED have the prefix RWED: when they show up at the top of the "community" page might be a good idea.
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Yeah, that's a pretty good idea, you two. I think while we're at it, we should change it to the "RWEA: Real World Event Arguments" section.
RWEA also doubles as a warning, as in "Really Wanna Earfull of Asshole?"
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