FTL?
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Quote:There's also lines in Serenity that indicates the opposite, namely Mal asks if their in communication range so he can speak to patience. I'd be surprised if this was a case of signal strength, any transmitter worth it's salt in space should be strong enough to reach across the system. Of course this makes things more difficult when considering Out of Gas, since they're out of comms range there.
Originally posted by RocketJock:
It's definitely cannon that there is no FTL drive, but there does seem to be some form of FTL communication system--the Cortex allows real-time communication over distances that would involve time-lag otherwise.
My personal solution would be considering the Cortex, it makes sense that the cortex would use relay satellites, so ships may have lower power transmitters, needing to get a signal only to the nearest relay. In out of gas they're away from the cortex network, so the comms system hasn't the power to reach the nearest satellite. Range is still then a question of light speed delay.
Quote:I think these are more the dictates of Movie time frames. We could infer that there's FTL communication in order to explain away that inconsistency, but I'm not sure that's enough. Maybe Joss just cut out the pauses so we wouldn't be bored
Specifically, in the Big Damn Movie, the operative has a real-time conversation with Mal while being unaware of his location. If the comm system was not FTL, this would place them in relatively close proximity. (Even communication from Earth to Luna involves a 1/3 second lag, and we're next-door neighbors.)
Mal is also able to speak with Mr. Universe from Miranda with no noticeable lag time. QED, FTl Comm.
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Nope , no FTL...
Serenity herself has the Standard
Radion-Accelerator Core , class code
03-K64 , 'Firefly'...
But , there is mass-reduction via manipulation of
G-force , as Miss Kaylee refers to " re-wiring
the grav-thrust "...
As for radio and vid Comms , one has to
have 'line -of-sight' between transceivers , in
the absence of a suitable repeater-sat...
That's why Mal asks about whether they're in
range to talk to Patience , 'cause with the bulk
of say , a planet or moon in the way , they ain't
talkin' to nobody...
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Originally posted by out2theblack:
Nope , no FTL...
But , there is mass-reduction via manipulation of
G-force , as Miss Kaylee refers to " re-wiring
the grav-thrust "...
So, not being a physicist in any way, shape or form, is this suggestive of the idea that the drive uses a planetary body's gravity well to propel it, at least in some way?
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I think it implies the writers were not physicists either. But that's ok, we still love them.
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Originally posted by citizen:
There is no FTL, this has been stated within canon.
When, I don't remember anything of this sort.
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Quote:Well, I'm fairly sure if it's not stated it's certainly alluded to in the show, and Joss has stated it. I'd say a remark by the series creator can be accepted as 'in canon'.
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
When, I don't remember anything of this sort.
Beyond that, have you seen anybody use FTL? Also comments within the show indicate more conventional drives. Consider also Serenity (Pilot), if you've got a Faster Than Light drive, when is a better time to use it than when an Alliance Cruiser is bearing down on you?
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Originally posted by StrangeBird:
Wow...
Yep that's all I can say to that.
Make sense though, don't it?
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derangedmilk wrote:
Sunday, December 23, 2007 08:02
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Originally posted by StrangeBird:
Wow...
Yep that's all I can say to that.
Make sense though, don't it?
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Not really... I meant wow as in WOW I thought I had alot of free time for crazy think'n.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Well, I'm fairly sure if it's not stated it's certainly alluded to in the show, and Joss has stated it. I'd say a remark by the series creator can be accepted as 'in canon'.
We don't see eye to eye on this one. Joss has supported other things that have created contradictions. So, I'm not really going to be convinced by him saying something if it wasn't said in the show.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Beyond that, have you seen anybody use FTL? Also comments within the show indicate more conventional drives. Consider also Serenity (Pilot), if you've got a Faster Than Light drive, when is a better time to use it than when an Alliance Cruiser is bearing down on you?
Just because something isn't used/wasn't seen, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Comments in the show regarding such things, in context, only refer to there own situation. Not to the 'verse as a whole.
Such drives, could simply be too expensive to afford. The crew was living hand to mouth on a piece of go-se after all.
Personally, because of the above, I'm going to consider this question still "up in the air" without an answer in sight. Just my opinion.
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