400 Scientists Say Gore & Warming Cabal Are Full Of Go Se
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Friday, December 28, 2007 08:56
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
But the ones who compiled the list in this report do have party affiliation a'plenty.
I note for the record that the same is true for the folks, like Gore, who compiled a list of pro Global Warmers.
If your saying party affiliation invalidates any list of scientists then I'm afraid no list of scientists is valid and thus there is no evidence acceptable to either side that global warming is or is not happening. Thus the whole thing is a push and that favors the 'aint happening, so do nothing' crowd.
I again note for the record that its cold in winter, warm in summer, sometimes it rains and the wind blows, sometimes not so much. Global Warmers cite any weather cold, warm, wet, dry, as proof positive when in fact its all the same weather.
It is stunningly similar to the pre-historic man and his belief that thunder was the work of an angry God. So many liberals seem willing to toss aside reason in favor of prostration before the angry earth mother. And they'll go after anyone who refuses to embrace their zealotry.
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Quote:Do I not note that as well?
Originally posted by Hero:Quote:I note for the record that the same is true for the folks, like Gore, who compiled a list of pro Global Warmers.
Originally posted by mal4prez:
But the ones who compiled the list in this report do have party affiliation a'plenty.
Hero, what I'm saying, if only you'd actually read my post, is that any study that shows only one side is BS. ANY study. We need balanced research done by people with a healthy level of skepticism - skepticism as to BOTH sides. The page Jongsstraw posted is a blog by someone like yourself - someone who's dismissed one side of the debate already. They - and you - are of no real use in the debate, because you are incapable of processing any information that disagrees with your all-done cha-ching! decision.
And really - how can it hurt to allow for the dangerous possibilities of climate change, just enough to allow folks to study it and take reasonable steps to prepare? What is your problem with that? Is it only because this is an issue taken up by the left, and you so blindly hate the left? Or are you terrified that you're being hoodwoked by evil scientists out to land a grant or two? What's the problem?
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Originally posted by Hero:
I again note for the record that its cold in winter, warm in summer, sometimes it rains and the wind blows, sometimes not so much. Global Warmers cite any weather cold, warm, wet, dry, as proof positive when in fact its all the same weather.
I note for the record that no one has said that global warming will turn the sky green, cause rain to fly from the ground to the air, cause accumulation of diamond instead of ice during ice storms or anything that falls outside the category of "the same weather".
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From the Study : "Only 52 Scientists Participated in UN IPCC Summary
The over 400 skeptical scientists featured in this new report outnumber by nearly eight times the number of scientists who participated in the 2007 UN IPCC Summary for Policymakers. The notion of “hundreds” or “thousands” of UN scientists agreeing to a scientific statement does not hold up to scrutiny. Recent research by Australian climate data analyst Dr. John McLean revealed that the IPCC’s peer-review process for the Summary for Policymakers leaves much to be desired.
Proponents of man-made global warming like to note how the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) and the American Meteorological Society (AMS) have issued statements endorsing the so-called "consensus" view that man is driving global warming. But both the NAS and AMS never allowed member scientists to directly vote on these climate statements. Essentially, only two dozen or so members on the governing boards of these institutions produced the "consensus" statements. This report gives a voice to the rank-and-file scientists who were shut out of the process.
The most recent attempt to imply there was an overwhelming scientific “consensus” in favor of man-made global warming fears came in December 2007 during the UN climate conference in Bali. A letter signed by only 215 scientists urged the UN to mandate deep cuts in carbon dioxide emissions by 2050. But absent from the letter were the signatures of these alleged “thousands” of scientists."
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I agree that it doesn't hurt to take some steps ( which we are ) to reduce emissions, and enact laws to protect the natural environment....but it DOES hurt when Gore jets all over the globe BLAMING AMERICA for the " man-made" problem. Must be nice to shoot your mouth off knowing you're untouchable...kinda like posting here.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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I agree that it doesn't hurt to take some steps ( which we are ) to reduce emissions, and enact laws to protect the natural environment....but it DOES hurt when Gore jets all over the globe BLAMING AMERICA for the " man-made" problem. Must be nice to shoot your mouth off knowing you're untouchable...kinda like posting here.
This would be my main point also. Some of the measures proposed by the Global Warming believers do make sense just as good environmental policy. Everyone wants cleaner air and water. My main problem is that sound policies can't be discussed with fanatics like Gore, who would rather jet around the world waving their hands in the air shouting we're all gonna die than address our problems in a sensible manner. The air and water in the US has been getting cleaner for the last 30 years and we need to continue our progress, but Gore is part of the problem not part of the solution.
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Quote:Ha - that's funny! I noticed how you signed your real name when you started this thread, and then offered your own time and resources to make a more balanced study of the matter instead of just posting someone else's biased blog...
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Must be nice to shoot your mouth off knowing you're untouchable...kinda like posting here.
Oh, wait a minute. No, you didn't do any of that.
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
This would be my main point also. Some of the measures proposed by the Global Warming believers do make sense just as good environmental policy. Everyone wants cleaner air and water. My main problem is that sound policies can't be discussed with fanatics like Gore, who would rather jet around the world waving their hands in the air shouting we're all gonna die than address our problems in a sensible manner. The air and water in the US has been getting cleaner for the last 30 years and we need to continue our progress, but Gore is part of the problem not part of the solution.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:With me.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Where's the truth anymore?
Global Warming is part of a natural Earth cycle that man's contribution to merely speeds up some, yet does not specifically cause.
Get ready for some drought, later snow. That's the forecast for this century.
Omnipotant Chrisisall
You got that right. Except about the man's contribution crap. That's horse radish.
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I remember hearing about glabal warming in my teens... only a few folk believed it was going to happen - most of the community were poo pooing the idea...
Then in my 20s things started to happen where I live - this huge hole in the ozone layer was a fact and it was right over where I live... skin cancer rates soared... I never ever used to burn in summer - I was well into my 20s the first time I got sunburn!! I spent my teens sitting on the beach all day for days on end wearing only Reef Oil!! (Oil!!! Not sun screen!!!) and all I got was browner and browner! Now I wear factor 30 and a hat and keep out of the sun as much as possible - as do most younger folk - and we burn in about 20mins... that's not go se! That's a fact!
Then our drought got so bad we are being told to plan never to come out of it! What the hell? Is this a drought or a climate change?
I am sorry - no matter how generally respected these scientists are I have to express my humble belief that they are setting the cause of reversing global warming back and giving those who can't be bothered making the effort to reduce green house gas emissions an excuse to remain apathetic...
In my very humble - completely un-autohorised opinion, and with all due respect to those who have an alternative opinion... these scientists are full of go se and talking through their pi gu!
Sorry - but there it is... now I am going to brave some flash flooding to get to the shops - don't know what is scarier - the flooding or the people at the shops today!! 
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Originally posted by mal4prez:Quote:Ha - that's funny! I noticed how you signed your real name when you started this thread, and then offered your own time and resources to make a more balanced study of the matter instead of just posting someone else's biased blog...
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Must be nice to shoot your mouth off knowing you're untouchable...kinda like posting here.
Oh, wait a minute. No, you didn't do any of that.
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You're right of course. I didn't do it with intent or malice. I will correct it. Merry Christmas!
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