400 Scientists Say Gore & Warming Cabal Are Full Of Go Se
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Friday, December 28, 2007 08:56
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Note that you're quoting from a republican blog and the source of the report is...
"The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee’s office of the GOP Ranking Member..."
... the same folks who set energy and environmental policy based on the orders of the oil and auto industry lobbyists.
Kinda reminds me of how the AAPG gave an award to Micheal Crichton for writing a work of fiction bashing global warning. He's a scientist, right? 
Whatever...
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The names and opinions of the scientists don't come with a party affiliation, and you cannot simply dismiss this with an obtuse example or two.
These are the most respected people from the most respected organizations in the world on the subject.
Who's Gore got? He could help the Earth far more in terms of MAN-MADE global warming if he just kept his pie hole shut, and stopped burning trillions of gallons of precious fuel jetting all over the world to collect his awards.
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But the ones who compiled the list in this report do have party affiliation a'plenty.
To give you an idea of the standards used by the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works...
The American Association of Petroleum Geologists ... is presenting its annual journalism award this year to Michael Crichton, the science fiction writer whose latest book, "State of Fear," dismisses global warming as a largely imaginary threat embraced by malignant scientists for their own ends.
"It is fiction," conceded Larry Nation, communications director for the association. "But it has the absolute ring of truth."
The book is "demonstrably garbage," Stephen H. Schneider, a Stanford climatologist, said in an interview yesterday. Petroleum geologists may like it, he said, but only because "they are ideologically connected to their product, which fills up the gas tanks of Hummers."
Daniel P. Schrag, a geochemist who directs the Harvard University Center for the Environment, called the award "a total embarrassment" that he said "reflects the politics of the oil industry and a lack of professionalism" on the association's part.
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The book has high-profile admirers, though. One is Senator James M. Inhofe, the Oklahoma Republican who is chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, who calls global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/09/national/09prize.html
Hey, I'm not sold on the mechanics and causes of climate change, and I'm not saying that Gore didn't do his own cherry picking. But I sure as hell won't be looking to a report posted by these Repugli Senate schmoes as evidence of anything. So there's a few scientists on the oil industry's side of the debate - of course there is! There should be folks working on each side of the theory. But there's plenty on the other side too, and I don't see this committee considering that. I don't see them taking into account how each scientist is funded, either.
The report is, like every other blog on the page you reference, one-sided rah-rah-ing of folks who've already been bought and paid for by the oil industry. It's meaningless.
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Well then you might as well say that EVERYTHING out there is bought and paid for by somebody....somebody with an agenda. Where's the truth anymore?
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Quote:That is the difficulty... I like to think there was a time when devisiveness wasn't the way, and people looked at both sides of a topic like this, and someone out there is collecting non-biased stats on these studies and who funds them and such... but maybe I'm dreaming!
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Well then you might as well say that EVERYTHING out there is bought and paid for by somebody....somebody with an agenda. Where's the truth anymore?
Anyhow, I concede that there are likely good, solid studies that counter global warming as human caused. As I said - I'm not sure myself. (Although, my grad school was funded by petroleum company fellowships, so my own opinion is suspect too LOL!) I just get worried when I see folks so obviously in the pocket of the oil companies making these one-sided arguments.
I mean, what's the danger in taking the threat seriously and being wrong? So we make our air cleaner than it strictly needs to be. So we force the oil and auto folks to open their fat wallets a little and build better stuff. So we get less dependent on foreign oil. So we fund a few yappy scientists in vain. What would that add up to - about .00001% of what we spend on this stupid war?
Compare that to the danger of not taking this threat seriously and being wrong - destruction of our environment and ourselves.
My lord, why is there even a question? (ans: those oil industry fat wallets are defending their stash...)
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Quote:With me.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Where's the truth anymore?
Global Warming is part of a natural Earth cycle that man's contribution to merely speeds up some, yet does not specifically cause.
Get ready for some drought, later snow. That's the forecast for this century.
Omnipotant Chrisisall
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Mal, you've pretty nailed my opinion on the matter.
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Quote:Woo-hoo! Consensus!
Originally posted by fredgiblet:
Mal, you've pretty nailed my opinion on the matter.
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Where's the truth anymore?
With me.
Global Warming is part of a natural Earth cycle that man's contribution to merely speeds up some, yet does not specifically cause.
Get ready for some drought, later snow. That's the forecast for this century.
Omnipotant Chrisisall
Doh! I should'a known.
I could'a had a V-8!
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