Fantastic Ron Paul Interviews
POSTED BY: SergeantX
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 14:16
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Thank you, sir.
I particularly like how affected he is by what happens to his friends and neighbors. He notices things and remembers them. He strives to grow and learn from not only his own actions but others'.
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
What did you find particularly revealing about this interview? I'm not knocking Dr. Paul, but I didn't hear much I hadn't heard before...
I'd heard all the policy stuff before as well, but what I found most interesting was kind of subtle. I've suspected for a while now that he's been handed a little more than he bargained for with the success of his campaign. I think he gave in to requests from libertarians to run as a way to promote the values and principles he dearly believes in. I don't think he expected to have anything like a real chance to win. I think for him "success" was defined as speaking out on the national stage and injecting the ideas of non-interventionism and small government into the debate.
But the message has proven far more popular than he imagined it would. I'm sure that's very gratifying for him, but it also places a much heavier burden on him than a simple protest campaign would. You could see that in the interview. He'd rather be at home with his family than playing PR games with reporters on the campaign trail. And while it's slightly unnerving to think you might be supporting a candidate who has reservations about taking the job, that's exactly the kind of person I want in office. We've had enough of ambitious power mongers.
I also saw, in the discussion, genuine passion for the ideas. When he was talking about his fascination with Austrian economics, you could see that he views political ideology as something worth pursuing for its own sake, not just as a vehicle for acquiring power.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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I'm just in love with Ron Paul.
(Despite his being an obstetrician, and my being a die-hard homebirther. But here's the beauty of it: he supports the right of women to choose to birth at home.)
Got freedom?
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Aude sapere (Dare to know). -- Samuel Hahnemann, M.D., founder of homeopathy
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If Paul had been President in 1940, we'd all be speaking Japanese & German now....well, some of us; the rest of us would never have been born.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If Paul had been President in 1940, we'd all be speaking Japanese & German now....well, some of us; the rest of us would never have been born.
I know you're mostly here for the snark, Jongs, but where do y'all get the idea that Dr. Paul cannot/would not defend our country? Is it this old tired nonsense that we MUST fight this absurd war in Iraq in order to stay "safe" (no tag-backs)? Jesus, you still clinging to the goofy legend that the U.S. single handedly won WWII?
Last I checked, it's congress's duty to declare war, anyway. God forbid we have a president that would actually wait to go to war until it's declared...sigh
HKCavalier
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If Paul had been President in 1940, we'd all be speaking Japanese & German now....well, some of us; the rest of us would never have been born.
I know you're mostly here for the snark, Jongs, but where do y'all get the idea that Dr. Paul cannot/would not defend our country? Is it this old tired nonsense that we MUST fight this absurd war in Iraq in order to stay "safe" (no tag-backs)? Jesus, you still clinging to the goofy legend that the U.S. single handedly won WWII?
Last I checked, it's congress's duty to declare war, anyway. God forbid we have a president that would actually wait to go to war until it's declared...sigh
Penny for the smart lady!
I don't think it's appropriate to refer to me as Jesus however.
If you think the US's role in defeating Japan & Germany is a "goofy legend", then who here is really being snarky?
Peacenik isolationists like Paul helped delay our entry into WWII...countless millions of lives were lost due to that delay. They ( the anti-war isolationist crowd ) were critically wrong then, and they are wrong now.
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Quote:First of all, he is not a peacenik isolationist. He is perfectly willing to go to war to defend our country--unlike Bush, he actually served in the armed forces the *entire* time he was supposed to. Unlike Bush, he just wants us to have good relationships with people who are not threatening us. Isolationist is just name-calling from people who WANT to meddle in other countries for their own agendas (not for the best interest of the USA).
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Peacenik isolationists like Paul helped delay our entry into WWII...countless millions of lives were lost due to that delay.
Second of all, it is not necessarily right to assume that non-meddlers like Paul would not have entered WWII at the right time. WWII was a different animal. Everyone else was already at war BEFORE us. Hitler had already invaded several countries. All of our meddling done in the last 50 years involved us going out there alone or with one other country, trying to force some other country to do what WE want. Trying to step back from that doesn't mean we won't join an international alliance at war if necessary. It just means that if we do, and risk the lives of our soldiers, we better do it because the rest of our lives are at stake.
Finally, the decision to delay entering the war saved countless AMERICAN lives. Now, maybe more Americans *should* have been sacrificed to help save European lives, but had it been the other way around, I very much doubt that Europeans would have jumped right in without delay to save American lives.
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
[Quote:First of all, he is not a peacenik isolationist. He is perfectly willing to go to war to defend our country--unlike Bush, he actually served in the armed forces the *entire* time he was supposed to. Unlike Bush, he just wants us to have good relationships with people who are not threatening us. Isolationist is just name-calling from people who WANT to meddle in other countries for their own agendas (not for the best interest of the USA).
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Peacenik isolationists like Paul helped delay our entry into WWII...countless millions of lives were lost due to that delay.
Second of all, it is not necessarily right to assume that non-meddlers like Paul would not have entered WWII at the right time. WWII was a different animal. Everyone else was already at war BEFORE us. Hitler had already invaded several countries. All of our meddling done in the last 50 years involved us going out there alone or with one other country, trying to force some other country to do what WE want. Trying to step back from that doesn't mean we won't join an international alliance at war if necessary. It just means that if we do, and risk the lives of our soldiers, we better do it because the rest of our lives are at stake.
Finally, the decision to delay entering the war saved countless AMERICAN lives. Now, maybe more Americans *should* have been sacrificed to help save European lives, but had it been the other way around, I very much doubt that Europeans would have jumped right in without delay to save American lives.
Very interesting, but I do not agree.
I see no evidence that Paul has ever or would ever support anything related to America's national security or the security of the "free" world.
As far as WWII, our delay entering the war allowed the Axis to expand, control, occupy, and entrench in all the countries they conquered. American blood was spilled defeating those forces, but the death toll of American soldiers and civilians of the world would not have been nearly so high if the Fascists had been confronted years earlier. The old saying...he who hesitates is lost....nearly came true back then. If we pander, appease, and enable by excuses what is going on with Islamo-fascist terrorism today, the body count will ultimately be much higher in the future.
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Quote:NO evidence? Having served in the Air Force doesn't count?
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I see no evidence that Paul has ever or would ever support anything related to America's national security.
From www.ronpaul2008.com "No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution. " That means if Congress declares war, he'll support it.
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Aude sapere (Dare to know). -- Samuel Hahnemann, M.D., founder of homeopathy
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Finally, the decision to delay entering the war saved countless AMERICAN lives. Now, maybe more Americans *should* have been sacrificed to help save European lives, but had it been the other way around, I very much doubt that Europeans would have jumped right in without delay to save American lives.
Decision to delay? Do you think that America chose to enter WWII? There are plenty of nations that could question the motives and courage of Britain and France; the Czechs in particular can call us cowards. But that is a very bad war to pick as an example of American resolve.
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