American Drug Policy
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Sunday, March 2, 2025 04:38
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I'm going to post this here in the hope that a large-scale fued won't break out (of course, saying that is like saying the Captain won't wear suspenders tomorrow; just not logical 
).
My intent is to get some more info on US drug policy, from all sides of the debate. I'm writing a final paper about it, and I thought it wouldn't hurt (though it probably will) to get some info from disparate sources.
Opinions are welcome (not like I could stop anyone here from giving them), but my hope is to maybe get links to websites with more information. All help is appreaciated (she says apprehensively).
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"This is my timey-wimey detector. It goes ding when there's stuff. Also, it can boil an egg at 30 paces, whether you want it to or not, actually, so I've learned to stay away from hens. It's not pretty when they blow."
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I'd suggest you track down the drug war episode of Penn & Teller's "Bullshit!". They do a great job clarifying the insanity of the whole concept.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Drug companies are in bed with the government, which is why when one wanted to test a new Hep-B vaccine on someone (in the late seventies), the Gov't facilitated a trip to Africa to test it on unwitting innocent villagers. Forget the fantasies of green-tree monkeys suddenly spreading it after centuries of not, HIV was created by accident there by our own dabbling. And if it gets out officially, the reparations and fallout would be frightening.
Meanwhile, here at home, there was recently a fight to make vitamins available only by prescription,
http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lcodex.htm
http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2005/01/12/vitamins_and_nutritional
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...luckily the drug companies only have so much power, even if they feel like Gods.
Leash the FDA Chrisisall
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I'm 100% fully for decrminalizing marijuana, at the very least for personal use. While I have no intention of smoking pot, but it's a matter of rights and an individual's freedom of choice. To allow one type of plant leaf to be smoked, even to the point of Federal subsidies, and to outlaw another plant leaf, is pure hypocricy.
LegalizeItRaptor
"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Quote:I'll agree with this- plus, good for tax revenues.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm 100% fully for decrminalizing marijuana, at the very least for personal use. I have no intention of personally smoking pot, but it's a matter of rights and an individual's freedom. To allow one type of plant leave to be smoked, even to the point of Federal subsidies, and to outlaw another plant leaf, is pure hypocricy.
LegalizeItRaptor
Dude, Chrisisall
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10 years ago, I would have argued vehemently that we needed to crack down on illegal drugs; however, I'm getting much more comfortable with legalization and managing more like we do the other all time favorite US drug, alcohol.
Re: Prescription drugs; I think we should go to a 'single payer' system.
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Quote:Didn't they try an experiment a while back to see what would happen if alcohol was removed entirely from American consumption? I believe many died from lead poisoning as a result....
Originally posted by leadb:
I'm getting much more comfortable with legalization and managing more like we do the other all time favorite US drug, alcohol.
Untouchableisall
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Yeah, you really wanna go dig into the Temperance Movement and Prohibition and it's justifications and subsequent failures... as a historical background if naught else, because some part of Prohibition II: The War on (some)Drugs even today has some quasi-religious roots to it.
I am of the belief that you should be able to do anything you please, to YOURSELF, since you are your own property - and to consider your person, your body, anything else is about as reprehensible a concept as I can possibly imagine.
Like Government, our Drug Policy is a problem masquerading as it's own solution - wasn't all that long ago you could buy opiates right over the counter for your headache or toothache, and we did not have any large scale "drug problems" and the related crime and savagery we do now.
Our very policy created, and continues to cause, the problems it was theoretically intended to prevent and deter - much like solving a bleeding head wound by applying a tourniquet to the neck, it was a counterproductive process from it's very inception.
And it continues to be.
As far as taxes go, for them that brought it up, so long as they are reasonable and fair, people will have no problem with it - but when it becomes rabid exploitation, as it has with tobacco now, it opens up the same exact can of worms over the tax stamp as simple Prohibition would do - we're already seeing a LOT of interstate and cross border cigarette smuggling, with the related benefits and expansion of organized crime, and this will only continue as the Gov squeezes harder.
And I know it's kind of a weird thing to ask, but I am curious enough to be interested whether or not I might agree with the conclusions....
Would you care to post the finished piece for us ?
I'd be right interested, to be honest.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And I know it's kind of a weird thing to ask, but I am curious enough to be interested whether or not I might agree with the conclusions....
Would you care to post the finished piece for us ?
I'd be right interested, to be honest.
-Frem
Sure, Frem. Wouldn't mind at all. Though I'll forewarn folks that this is my first time writing a piece of this nature, so I'm sure I'll have a few flaws, factually wise. But it'll be great (not to mention intimidating) to have everyone's opinion on it.
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"This is my timey-wimey detector. It goes ding when there's stuff. Also, it can boil an egg at 30 paces, whether you want it to or not, actually, so I've learned to stay away from hens. It's not pretty when they blow."
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Quote:Don't use any of that stuff about us creating HIV like that- peeps git crazy about that subject, mad even- they'll deny, demand proof from government sources, and give you an F. So steer clear of that, I included it for personal informational purposes only.
Originally posted by deepgirl187:
But it'll be great (not to mention intimidating) to have everyone's opinion on it.
Free the info Chrisisall
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