Make someone else a leaf on the wind
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UPDATED: Wednesday, December 5, 2007 23:51
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Quote:I wasn't the one who said that Kaylee was the heart of the show, IT WAS JOSS! He said it during the commentary of the pilot episode. Besides, (paraphrasing Joss again) "heart of the show" means that she is the character that creates the sense of family. And, it also means Kaylee is the soul of the ship; if she believes something, the viewer believes it. (Kaylee: "I thought we loved Monty.") Later in the same commentary, Joss also said that Inara was more like the counselor of the ship.
Originally posted by JeanDask:
No
Inara is the heart, Kaylee is the sens of family in the show, if she dide there'd be nothing to keep every one together they'd all go their separate ways, except Mal and Zoe.
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I don't think Joss was trying to punish anyone...it was an example of "bad things happen to good people" and "everything has consequences".
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"My way of being polite, or however...well, it's the only way I have of showing you that I like you. Of showing respect." Simon Tam, Jaynestown
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Really I think any one of the crew could have died in the BDM. Even Mal could be done away with. Zoe would take over as captain and we'd watch as the crew struggles to keep the family together.
River could have died when she saved everyone from the reavers. It would have been her heroic sacrifice and life would go on.
If Zoe had died then we'd obviously see the effect it would have on Mal and Wash. We'd have to see if Wash would leave the ship or stay on because he needed the support of the rest of the crew.
Kaylee probably would have been the most emotional loss. She just seems so innocent and sweet that seeing her get reaverized would probably alienate a lot of viewers, but it would have the strongest impact when watching it.
Jayne would have had the least impact. He's a mercenary and in danger a lot. So, seeing him die would have been almost acceptable to audiences. It would only sting browncoats because we don't want to see any of our crew die.
Simon would have been an emotional death too, but he'd die victorious. He got his sister through the storm and she's recovering.
Inara would just be a bystander getting caught in the crossfire. She didn't have much purpose in the fight. She got yanked in because she's Mal's weakness. I would have probably been almost as weak as Jayne dying. The only reason it would be a little more emotional is because she doesn't seem to deserve it.
I think just about any of them could have gone and the audience would have gotten the point that no one is safe. I sure got the point. By the end I was thinking it was all over and no one was going to live.
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Originally posted by Platonist:
Ah, married issue... Zoe should have valued her husbands wishes, and LEAVE the ship, had a child (like she said she wanted) and start a family, instead of blindly following her old army CO, out of missed placed loyalty. Wash was constantly asking her for time ALONE and away.
Zoe's weakness is not prioritizing her needs and her inability to create a future solely lands her in a weak female position in my book. So... NO REWARD! for her.
And I do believe it is Jayne, Simon and Inara that save her behind when she is on her revenge rampage.
Actually, my main problem with your post was the fact that it made Kaylee and Inara "spoils." If you think Zoe is in a weak female position and Kaylee and Inara are just spoils for the heroic guys, then I gotta say I have been watching a whole different BDM and series.
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When I speak of "spoils", I speak of them purely as in the context of a fictional story, one of mythical proportions as in Serenity.
Mal and Simon are both the heroes of their stories. Their reward or "spoils" are the opportunities to start relationships with Inara and Kaylee. I in no way see Inara or Kaylee weak or objectified in anyway.
I do think that Joss wanted to hold his characters as accountable for their actions as possible, thus creating a realistic story with consequences for good and bad choices. Zoe and Wash chose to stay on Serenity and follow Mal. Wash dies; Zoe is left as a grieving widow, the consequence for HER choices. Obviously, the outcome would be different if any other character died. And we don't know why Joss chose Wash, the devoted husband. Maybe to him it made the most artistic impact, creating a warrior women widow.
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