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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 9:45 AM

At 400 replies, that other thread was about to crash my computer.

The other thread is t=17221

About the BDM opening sequence of scenes. Joss needed us to be surprised that The Operative stops, backtracks, and then walks through the 3D playback of the escape. Joss wanted us to be engaged in the moment, engorssed as if it was the actual scene/time of the escape, and not just a playback. If handled differently, many browncoats would watch it and say, oh, this is just a playback/recording of the actual event. So, how did Joss do this?
By starting off with the classroom scene of River's childhood, which then seems to be a memory of River's when the Teacher stabs her in the forehead and the reality shifts to Dr Mathias sticking his forehead probe in her and Simon is there to rescue her. This makes the viewer think that the scene is currently occurring, not a playback. River's thoughts would not be included in the security tape of the escape, so that is why we are surprised when the Operative talks and walks through the 3d playback image.
Sneaky, that Whedon guy.


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Saturday, December 8, 2007 10:24 PM

Yes, please, let's start using this thread. :D

Anyone notice that Early's ship looks a bit like Boba Fett's Slave I from Star Wars?

At the beginning of OiS, when we're in River's POV, Kaylee is the only one who doesn't say anything. (Except Zoe and Wash of course) She just looks kinda angry but when we flash back to her and Simon's conversation, she's laughing.

I also just noticed that there are what appear to be oxygen masks in various locations onboard Serenity. One to the side of the engine room door, on the right side of the cockpit in Inara's shuttle, one at the foot of Kaylee's bed and hanging from the back wall of the main bridge. I wonder what they're for.

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Monday, December 10, 2007 10:19 AM

The oxygen masks would be safety equipment, required in case of rapid air loss. Each working space and crew space should have enough for the people berthed there, plus a bunch in common areas like the lounge or dinning area.

I also noticed while watching the BDM again that at the end, when the blasdt doors get stuck p[artly closed and KayLee says she can close them if she gets outside, the next camera shot is of River, not saying anything, and a bit before she does "My Turn". I think the gist of it was that River read KayLee's mind about everything KayuLee had done or was planning for that switch, panel, and door mechanism. Plus, although seh was the youngest, she was getting all of the full situational awareness from all of those present, and how dire their circumstances were. They were likely thinking they would all 6 die, and she could realize the "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one" equation (or, she may have known she could just whip azz).
Repeatedly, I am always dissappointed at how feq reaver bodies there are when thre blast doors open to River's hero pose. There should be bodies stacked on the floor, piled up, no floor surface open, plus body parts from the grenade.

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Monday, December 10, 2007 2:05 PM

In "Objects in Space" when Jubal Early asks Kaylee if she had ever been raped, she doesn't answer him. Instead, she says that the captain is just down the hall. Why didn't she answer the question? Had she been raped in the past and was afraid to admit it? One of the big theories about the show is that everyone on Serenity was running from something. Is this what she was running from?

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Monday, December 10, 2007 4:53 PM

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Originally posted by PhyreLight:
In "Objects in Space" when Jubal Early asks Kaylee if she had ever been raped, she doesn't answer him. Instead, she says that the captain is just down the hall. Why didn't she answer the question? Had she been raped in the past and was afraid to admit it? One of the big theories about the show is that everyone on Serenity was running from something. Is this what she was running from?



Hmm... interesting thought. :-[ Considering what little we know of where Kaylee grew up, that might indeed have been something she had to deal with.

Here's mine, another one about the River psychic flashes from 'Objects in Space' - Book's. (At least I hope that this is subtle.) Take the words that he said and disconnect them from River herself for just a second. "I don't give a flying hump if you're innocent or not. So where does that leave you?"

Seems a little bit like the sort of thing a corrupt cop might say to a 'suspect' in a nasty interrogation, like that organ hunter guy in 'The Message.' Is that supposed to be a hint about Book's past?

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Monday, December 10, 2007 5:02 PM

Oh, yeah! Especially since we now know that Book was a dirty cop. Although, it still makes you wonder if there was some point in his past were he saw the light and realized how dirty a dirty, dirty cop he was then became a not so dirty shepherd... dirty... okay I'll stop!

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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:23 AM

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Originally posted by PhyreLight:
Oh, yeah! Especially since we now know that Book was a dirty cop. Although, it still makes you wonder if there was some point in his past were he saw the light and realized how dirty a dirty, dirty cop he was then became a not so dirty shepherd... dirty... okay I'll stop!



....A Special Hell....

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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:18 PM

Oh, I'm already headed there. Yup, it's true, I talked at the theatre once!




"I've got a theory: it could be bunnies."
-Anya, Buffy the Vampire Slayer: "Once More with Feeling"

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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:38 PM

There's a plant in Mal's bunk but no windows. Where does it get it's sunlight from? There wasn't a UV lamp either.

In Bushwhacked, when the Feds are searching the ship, one of the things dumped on Zoe and Wash's bed is a Godzilla toy.

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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:06 PM

I also wonder, in Bushwacked when the Feds are searching the ship, why they look under the placemats? Is it possible that in addition to the academy manipulating River's psychic abilities they also gave her the ability to shrink and become flat?

Also, from Ariel, Mal smiles too much. He not only smiles at the doctor which makes the doctor suspicious but then, as he and Zoe search for River, Simon, & Jayne, he smiles again! Sometimes the man really is thick.

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