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Despotism vs Democracy: Putin Wins. Chavez Loses

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RUE
Tuesday, December 4, 2007 11:57 PM

Universal health care, strict environmental laws, consumer protection and job safety. Sounds good to me. Then the US could be like
#1 Iceland: 94%
#2 Netherlands: 91%
#3 Denmark: 91%
#4 Sweden: 91%
and be among the happiest countries on the earth.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lif_hap_net-lifestyle-happiness-net

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/happiest_countries/index_01.ht
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Or perhaps be like Denmark now reputed to be the happiest country on the earth "Heading up the list: Denmark, which rose to the top thanks to its wealth, natural beauty, small size, quality education, and good health care." "And the U.S. ranked only 23rd, due to nagging poverty and spotty health care."

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 12:27 AM

why democracy anyway?

does it stop the government from going on endless irrational rampages ?

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/12/04/iran-nuclear.html


now we have progressed from lying and creating evidence to saying so what, evidence is irrelevant



The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Universal health care, strict environmental laws, consumer protection and job safety. Sounds good to me. Then the US could be like
#1 Iceland: 94%
#2 Netherlands: 91%
#3 Denmark: 91%
#4 Sweden: 91%
and be among the happiest countries on the earth.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lif_hap_net-lifestyle-happiness-net

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/happiest_countries/index_01.ht
m

Or perhaps be like Denmark now reputed to be the happiest country on the earth "Heading up the list: Denmark, which rose to the top thanks to its wealth, natural beauty, small size, quality education, and good health care." "And the U.S. ranked only 23rd, due to nagging poverty and spotty health care."

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."



If you live in America and you admire these other countries why not move to them?

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RUE
Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:35 AM

B/c I have family that lives here that needs my help. However, a sufficiently large fraction is considering moving out of country. Once that happens I'll be freer to decide.

And you ? Why would you prefer to stay in a country that's relatively unhappy ? Have you never been anywhere else ? Is your experience so limited you really think this is the best there is ?

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:38 AM

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GinoBiffaroni wrote:
Tuesday, December 04, 2007 14:27
...now we have progressed from lying and creating evidence to saying so what, evidence is irrelevant



Just another shade of "The Big Lie." I think they learned if from Goebels.

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
B/c I have family that lives here that needs my help. However, a sufficiently large fraction is considering moving out of country. Once that happens I'll be freer to decide.

And you ? Why would you prefer to stay in a country that's relatively unhappy ? Have you never been anywhere else ? Is your experience so limited you really think this is the best there is ?

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."



Honetly I am happy where I am as an American, but I have given some thought to moving to an out of the way country like New Zealand, and I will add that I was thinking this long before the making of the Lord of the Rings.

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:44 AM

I think Chavez might have won quite handily if he'd left off the "reform" that allowed him to be "President for life".

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Always look upstream.

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:46 AM

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Honestly I am happy where I am as an American, but I have given some thought to moving to an out of the way country like New Zealand
Eh, forget about NZ. You have to be very very special: either fall into a "we really need these skills" occupation, or be a Pacific Islander to immigrate.

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RUE
Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:48 AM

New Zealand has tightened its immigrantion b/c of the large number of global warming refugees it's currently accepting.

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 1:49 AM

I think it was Bill Murray in the movie Stripes that said something to the effect that one of the things Americans have in common is that " our ancestors were kicked out of every decent county on earth". What makes you think they'd take any of us back.

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