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Monday, December 3, 2007 9:08 PM



Its been a long time since Wash suffered an untimely death (apparently) in the BDM, but my heart has not yet healed.

Though its not in the holiday spirit, I was wondering if anyone else felt that the wrong crew member got the short script.
Who would you have sent to the great anti-Unification bar in the sky or did you think that Wash was the obvious choice for Mr. Whedon's death stick?

Come to that, was anyone hoping that Book would be the sole survivor?



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Monday, December 3, 2007 9:58 PM

Well, let's go through the list.

Mal - No way. Can't kill one of the stars. Even if you are Joss. You want people to actually watch the movie, after all.

River - Yeah, right. The whole movie was about how "No power in the verse" can stop her.

Zoe - She needed to stick around for the fight.

Jayne - Also needed for the fight. He wouldn't have gotten much emotional reaction from people anyway. (As much as I love Jayne, he wasn't that likable in the movie.)

Simon - Might work, but honestly I think it would have been a little too much for most audiences.

Inara - Yeah, let's kill the prostitute so we can be just like everyone else.

Kaylee - Kill the little girl? Are you kidding?

Book - His work was pretty much done, and his dying words solidified what he preached.

Wash - He's a pilot. He flew the ship. That part was done.

I think Joss made the right choice on it. He gave his reasons in the commentary for killing off a crew member. I think he needed someone who was by no means weak, but at the same time wasn't really going to be useful for the up-close-and-personal fighting that was about to happen. Yes, for Browncoats, killing Wash was a huge deal. But for new audiences (myself included at the time that I saw it), Wash was a minor character, a Red Shirt if you will. Joss knows what he's doing.



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Monday, December 3, 2007 10:18 PM

I'm fine with Wash having been killed off. His death and that of Book, had the right amount of impact.

I personally wouldn't have missed, Simon being killed off but then the severity of their predicament wouldn't have hit quite as hard had the Doc gone. Wash though was crucial to the emotion of the finalé.

Actually I've been re-watching Firefly and the more I watch, the more Simon bugs the hell out of me. He's just so.............
.....wet. (Sorry TWG)






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Monday, December 3, 2007 11:14 PM

I would have been devastated had Simon died. I adore that character, he's the most misunderstood of the lot.

I've excepted the way things played out. I'm still curious to see how Joss would include Book and Wash in a sequel as promised though.

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Monday, December 3, 2007 11:47 PM

So, how many times WAS Buffy killed?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, December 4, 2007 12:15 AM

I didn't get to see the earliest showings of the BDM, but I insisted on being spoiled because if Simon had died, I was going to boycott.

As for Book and Wash dying, well, the whole thing about a war is...people die. Most of whom are greatly missed by at least somebody.

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Tuesday, December 4, 2007 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
So, how many times WAS Buffy killed?



Twice so far.



David

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Tuesday, December 4, 2007 3:59 AM

I can't understand this love people have for Simon. Seriously, of all the characters on the show he's my most least favorite, and River's not far behind (shockers I know, but we all have our favorites)

All the while after I just kept repeating "He killed Wash, etc, etc". Really ruined the rest of the movie for me. I know why he did it, but I thought it was cheap. I watched the end in a blur. Never bought the River/Reaver fight scenes, and I was expecting Zoe to at least give a little snarl River's way (say what you will about all of them volunteering, Wash is dead BECAUSE they chose to go by River's info), and for that I will always.... resent I suppose is the only word I can use.

Was there someone else they could have killed off? YES! But they didn't and the movie will always be sub-par with me. Bitter? You bet. Don't claim to be otherwise. And it is just MOHO.

Maybe, if there is a maybe, he can kill a certain doctor.

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Tuesday, December 4, 2007 4:31 AM

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Originally posted by micjwelch:
Well, let's go through the list.

Kaylee - Kill the little girl? Are you kidding?

True! Joss has called Kaylee the heart of the show. Everyone knows that you can't kill the heart of the show.
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Book - His work was pretty much done, and his dying words solidified what he preached.

Book falls under the mythological archetype of the "wise old man", which means he was destined to be there for the hero long enough to dispense advice then leave the story. Sometimes "leaving" means death.

I really wish Wash didn't have to die, but Joss writes about very real situations, like the untimely death of a friend. Yes, it hurts. But at the same time, it is very true to life. Sometimes people who are close to you die too early, and that reminds everyone else to keep living.

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Tuesday, December 4, 2007 7:33 AM

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Originally posted by micjwelch:


Kaylee - Kill the little girl? Are you kidding?




And y'all want Joss to make a sequel!! Who do you think he'll kill off in IT?

Remember his quote about the puppy...

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