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Question about OiS...

POSTED BY: zoid
UPDATED: Monday, April 19, 2004 21:13
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Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:07 PM

I may be late in this, because I haven't read the entire thread, but I responded to the blue sun thingy with both pictures.

It is two different guns. The gun Kaylee starts out with, and then River, is a Colt M-1911 .45 with an extended barrel (for competition shooting), the gun in OiS is a Desert Eagle.

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Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jared:
im more confused about their confusion where she got it from. after "the message" and "out of gas" i get the impression that guns are lying around all over the ship. standing in the cockpit and feel like taking kaylee hostage? ohhh, look, a gun.



Re-watch the episode. You see Jayne in the background as he comes onto the bridge, he has a bundle in his hands which he places on that little table and unrolls. Those are HIS guns and he's getting ready for the inevitable confrontation.

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just been gut shot and could need a weapon? ohh, look, there is one.


Look closely, that gun is in a holster attached to the side of the mule, so I think you're mistaken in the theory that guns are just 'lying about' all over the ship. GRANTED, if it were my bird, I don't think I'd leave a gun loose in a holster on the mule, but that's what it was doing there.

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Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:11 PM

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Look closely, that gun is in a holster attached to the side of the mule, so I think you're mistaken in the theory that guns are just 'lying about' all over the ship. GRANTED, if it were my bird, I don't think I'd leave a gun loose in a holster on the mule, but that's what it was doing there.


If I were Mal, I'd plant a gun right about there...

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Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:22 PM

Oh, I agree . . .it's a very practical place to have one, indeed. And upon reflection, given that they didn't know about River's little 'ballet dance' during "War Stories" and such, they don't have a reason to think that keeping a gun unsecured in that holster would be a bad idea.

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Sunday, April 18, 2004 2:09 PM

No, I meant I'd put one just out of sight when dealing with a guy I didn't really trust and there was no one else on the ship. You know, right about where I'd fall if the guy decided to shoot or hit me. Under normal circumstances, I'd keep the guns locked up. (Also, River hadn't shot the guys in War Stories when OoG happened, so there wouldn't really be any more reason to worry about guns lying around than "we have people on the ship who don't necessarily know how to use a gun,, and we should avoid accidents." Which is plenty of a reason for me.)

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Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:15 PM

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No, I meant I'd put one just out of sight when dealing with a guy I didn't really trust and there was no one else on the ship.


true, but i dont think he's looking like someone knowing where to find it, but just happens to notice it. and its not that well hidden to be placed "just in case". except of course placing it there was on purpose so if they find it and complain he could just pretend he forgot that its there.

but i guess if you can read minds it doesnt really matter. shouldnt be hard to get a gun from a locker or jaynes bunk in that case.

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Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:40 PM

The guns are different. Both guns ( from OiS and WS ) are indeed silver, and both do indeed have black gripping, but the barrels are different. Not proficient enough to tell which kind they are.. likely similar in calibur, but still. They ain't the same guns. The guns which most similar to each other are the one Mal has in OoG and what River finds in OiS.

Did I just repeat what was said up higer on this thread ? Heck , if so... never mind.

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Monday, April 19, 2004 1:50 PM

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Originally posted by Shiny:
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Originally posted by Shiny:
Couldn't it have been the same gun she used in War Stories to shoot the three guards? Maybe she dropped it/hid it somewhere afterwords and picked it up later in OiS in her 'dream' state.



Ok, I know it's lame to respond to your own post, but I think I have evidence that the gun she holds in OiS is the same one she took from Kaylee in WarStories:

firefly.deadly-nightshade.net/images/warstories/index.php?p=warstories435.jpg&pg=8

firefly.deadly-nightshade.net/images/objectsinspace/index.php?p=objects081.jpg&pg=1



Static is correct. The weapon River uses in War Stories is a 1911 long slide .45. The weapon she picks up in OiS is a Desert Eagle .44.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Monday, April 19, 2004 4:02 PM

I always just assumed it had been put there by the pistol fairy. Good an explanation as any, really. Works, and at the same times makes no sense.

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Monday, April 19, 2004 6:00 PM

I always just assumed that Jayne had taken out all his guns to clean them and left one of the smaller ones lying around...
of course he said he didn't, but you can't expect him to admit leaving his toys lying around...

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