More love for our troops from the top...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 02:51
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I never said it was a government-wide conspiracy.
No. Just the article you quote.
"They say the military is purposely misdiagnosing soldiers like Town and that it's doing so for one reason: to cheat them out of a lifetime of disability and medical benefits, thereby saving billions in expenses."
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Well, do you think it should be investigated? (By someone outside of the military, perhaps with the power to subpoena?)
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Quote:Like Rue said- I don't hear about any misdiagnoses leading to a ridiculous EXCESS in many vet's benefits...
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I never said it was a government-wide conspiracy.
No. Just the article you quote.
"They say the military is purposely misdiagnosing soldiers like Town and that it's doing so for one reason: to cheat them out of a lifetime of disability and medical benefits, thereby saving billions in expenses."
you bias betrays you, Geezer.
You miss the obvious Chrisisall
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, do you think it should be investigated? (By someone outside of the military, perhaps with the power to subpoena?)
Which 'it'?
Your conspiracy? No.
Bad administration at Fort Carson? Yep.
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Bad administration under Acting Surgeon General Pollock, who apparently falsified the review process. Yep.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Like Rue said- I don't hear about any misdiagnoses leading to a ridiculous EXCESS in many vet's benefits...
you bias betrays you, Geezer.
So who's gonna go to the press and complain about getting too much money?
Let's review.
Your 'wounded vets robbed of disability' conspiracy turned out to be most likely a programming error.
Rue's 'honorably discharged vets being arrested for AWOL' conspiracy turned out to have nothing behind it at all.
SignyM's 'Military-wide mis-diagnosis to save money' conspiracy has so far been identified as 56 folk at one military base. Hardly a 'riciculous' number.
Yep. I guess my bias against wild-ass conspiracy theories is showing indeed.
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Quote:First of all, it's not "my" conspiracy. Let's call it "possible problems" However, ASG Pollock did not properly investigate what appeared to be systematic errors at one military base, and similar errors at other bases. Because SHE didn't investigate, but rather fabricated an "independent review process" to cover up the problems, it leaves open the question as to how widespread the problem really is. And since SHE didn't investigate it- clearly her purview and responsibility- then the military's internal corrective process definitely broke down and the investigation now belongs someplace else. Don't forget that the 56 misdx is only what Fort Carson admitted to under pressure. Like cops covering up for other cops, they may be burying a larger problem. And nobody else is going to voluntarily come forward and admit wrongdoing or errors at this point, if indeed they occurred. (Except the anonymous sources who've already come foreward.)
SignyM's 'Military-wide mis-diagnosis to save money' conspiracy has so far been identified as 56 folk at one military base. Hardly a 'riciculous' number.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
First of all, it's not "my" conspiracy.
Okay. The Conspiracy SignyM posted links to and continues to defend.
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However, ASG Pollock did not properly investigate...
But no. Mr. Kors alleges that ASG Pollock did not investigate. If this came up as a fact during the formal investigation we both agree needs to occur at Ft. Carson, then I'd say go with it. Otherwise, I'd still want to see other input. The NPR series I cited, for example, didn't mention ASG Pollock or anyone outside Ft. Carson at all.
BTW, the GAO is already investigating the treatment of soldiers' mental health problems.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9691183
Check out the Senators' letter link on this page and see if their request meets your approval.
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Geezer- It doesn't necessarily HAVE to be a conspiracy. As usual, you're putting words in my mouth. It COULD be f*ckup and a coverup. It could be nothing at all. I wish you'd stop constructing strawman arguments, but it seems so ingrained in your psyche maybe you just can't help yourself.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Geezer- It doesn't necessarily HAVE to be a conspiracy. As usual, you're putting words in my mouth. It COULD be f*ckup and a coverup. It could be nothing at all. I wish you'd stop constructing strawman arguments, but it seems so ingrained in your psyche maybe you just can't help yourself.
Then perhaps you should have posted and cited an article which wasn't mainly an accusation of a conspiracy and coverup designed to cheat soldiers of their benefits to save the government money. Or at least commented on the parts you agreed with, rather than letting it all stand as meeting your approval.
Does the idea of a GAO audit satisfy your need for additional investigation?
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